623: Stu McLaren - Building Communities, Stories About Transformation, A World-Class Onboarding Process, & The Business Model of The Future
Feb 24, 2025
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Stu McLaren, author of "Predictable Profits," empowers leaders to transform their expertise into sustainable revenue through membership businesses. He discusses the timeless human need for community and belonging, emphasizing that while content attracts members, connection retains them. Stoic advice about embracing uncertainty and relying on gut instincts resonates deeply, illustrated movingly by his personal story of adopting his son. Additionally, he redefines sales as a noble profession, advocating for authenticity and storytelling in business.
Recurring revenue models, such as memberships, provide stability and promote growth, allowing businesses to focus on long-term planning over survival.
Stories of personal empowerment highlight the transformative impact of memberships, demonstrating how they can alleviate financial burdens during challenging times.
Engaging and community-focused memberships create lasting relationships by addressing ongoing problems and fostering connections between businesses and their members.
Deep dives
The Importance of Recurring Revenue
Recurring revenue is presented as a critical component for business stability and growth. Unlike relying on one-off sales, which depend on customer return, a membership model ensures a consistent income stream, allowing businesses to plan and invest with confidence. This approach minimizes the uncertainty many businesses face regarding future cash flow. By establishing a reliable source of revenue, entrepreneurs can focus on growth rather than merely survival.
Transforming Lives Through Memberships
Membership models have the potential to profoundly impact individuals and families. Stories are shared about people like Cody Birch, who launched a membership to alleviate financial burdens for his family during a health crisis. The recurring revenue from the membership allowed Cody to support his father's healthcare costs, demonstrating how business can be a means for personal empowerment and financial relief. This narrative illustrates that entrepreneurship can bring not just profits but also meaningful change in people's lives.
Types of Memberships
There are four primary types of memberships: physical product memberships, service-based memberships, knowledge-based memberships, and community-based memberships. Each serves different consumer needs and can create lasting relationships between businesses and their customers. For example, a physical product membership like Dollar Shave Club delivers razors consistently, while a service-based membership may offer monthly massages. Knowledge-based and community memberships provide ongoing education and networking opportunities, attracting diverse audiences.
Building Engaging Online Communities
To create a successful knowledge or community membership, it's essential to offer solutions to ongoing problems or facilitate skill development. Engaging memberships often focus on making life easier for members, whether through time-saving lesson plans for teachers or simplified marketing resources for real estate agents. An effective approach is to ensure that the membership resonates with the audience's needs and fosters community connections. By prioritizing interaction and engagement, memberships become more valuable and desirable.
Strategies for Successful Sales
Selling does not have to be intimidating; focusing on storytelling can make the process more natural and effective. Successful sales hinge on understanding customer needs and addressing objections through relatable narratives about transformation. The technique of creating an 'objection matrix' helps sellers connect common objections to real success stories, thereby reassuring prospective members. By emphasizing impact rather than mere features, sellers can foster trust and generate interest, leading to successful enrollments.
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Stu McLaren helps leaders and all types of business owners transform their knowledge, expertise, and influence into recurring revenue by launching, growing, and scaling membership businesses. He’s the author of PREDICTABLE PROFITS - Transform Your Business from One-Off Sales to Recurring Revenue with Memberships and Subscriptions.
Notes:
People come for the content, they stay for the community. People want to feel a sense of belonging. This has been hard-wired in us from many years ago. We want to be part of a group. In the old days, this was the only way to survive. We have not outgrown that need and the feeling of being a part of something bigger than ourselves.
Life advice: Listen to your gut instinct and embrace the unknown. You are not ever going to know how it’s going to pan out. You have to keep taking that next step. And I loved the story of the lengthy process of adopting his son Sam. The raw emotion in Stu’s eyes as he told that story was awesome. Watch this on YouTube and you can see. Take the next step. Keep going. You’re not going to know how it will go. Embrace that. And keep going.
Cody Burch Story – In October, Cody’s dad was diagnosed with leukemia. Cody had been sitting with the idea of a membership. He saw the fear in his dad’s eyes that he was nervous about the financial part of it. “I wanted to take that financial fear away from him. Within a few weeks of launching my membership, I had a few hundred members, and I was making thousands of dollars per month." “The more we make, the more we can give. The more we make, the more we can help.” Stu says that all the time
Create “super surprises” for your friends. Create an amazing experience for them.
Online communities must be one of the three:
Can I solve an ongoing problem? Weight loss, dog training
Can you teach a skill?
Can you make someone’s life easier? Provide teachers with lesson plans
You don’t need a big platform to get started. Have founding members. Float the idea that you’re thinking of it. Momentum starts with movement. Get going.
Pay close attention to onboarding. The first few days are EVERYTHING. His daughter’s new school was “the best school ever” because she met one friend on the first day. Help them build one meaningful relationship within the first few days. Connect them. Proactively do this.
Sales is the most noble profession in the world. Everything must be sold. Stu learned from John Childers, but couldn’t do it like him. So he just told stories about transformation.
People don’t care about the “stuff.” They care about the outcome. They care about the transformation.
The objection matrix - Match every objection with a story of someone who had the same objection and overcame it. Use stories.
The importance of building a membership around transformation, not just content. While many focus on delivering endless content. By focusing on helping people achieve meaningful outcomes, rather than overwhelming them with information, leaders can build stronger communities, improve retention, and deliver real value that keeps members coming back.
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