The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast 485. The Rebirth of God: Pathology and Promise | Jamie Wheal
Jamie Wheal, author of "Recapture the Rapture" and founder of the Flow Genome Project, delves into the complexities of spirituality and human potential. He discusses the Nietzschean concept of the death of God and its implications on society, examining the rise of hypocrisy in religious institutions. The conversation spans topics like the morality of masculinity, the transformative nature of play, and the dynamics of political discourse in the digital age. Wheal emphasizes the need for deeper meaning and ethical responsibility in an increasingly chaotic world.
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Consequences of the Death of God
- The death of God leads to nihilism, disunity, or power struggles as replacements for unifying narratives.
- People are hedonistic, nihilistic, hopeless, anxious, and lost without a unifying principle.
Nietzsche's Caution
- Nietzsche warned against simply replacing God with politicized power games.
- He foresaw the dangers of societal collapse when unifying principles are destroyed.
Enuma Elish and Societal Collapse
- The Enuma Elish, a Mesopotamian creation myth, describes careless sub-deities killing the principle upon which they're founded.
- This mirrors the recurring historical pattern of cultural collapse due to loss of faith in unifying principles.
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Intro
00:00 • 2min
The Aftermath of God: Unity and Nihilism
02:21 • 10min
Exploring Power, Hypocrisy, and Societal Order
11:58 • 5min
Faith, Morality, and Masculinity in Modern America
17:16 • 16min
Exploring Divine Covenant and Human Purpose
33:31 • 3min
Dopamine, Play, and the Hero's Journey
36:20 • 18min
The Power of Co-Creation and Engaging Differences
54:44 • 2min
Navigating the Complexities of Political Discourse
56:59 • 13min
The Social Mirror: Behavior Regulation and the Ethics of Interaction
01:10:17 • 4min
Psychopathy and Leadership in Capitalism
01:14:35 • 11min
Transcending Roles: Ethical Imperatives in Abrahamic Narratives
01:25:31 • 3min
Faith and Responsibility in Modern Contexts
01:28:07 • 8min
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Dr. Jordan B. Peterson sits down with author and founder of the Flow Genome Project, Jamie Wheal. They discuss the death of God as it can be understood in the secular world, the new rise of Pharisees across mainstream religions, how to guard the proper aim against human corruption, and the true pathology of the culture wars — and who is leading it downward.
Jamie Wheal is the author of “Recapture the Rapture: Rethinking God, Sex and Death In a World That's Lost Its Mind” and the Pulitzer-nominated “Stealing Fire: How Silicon Valley,” “Navy SEALs,” and “Maverick Scientists Are Revolutionizing the Way We Live and Work.” He is also the founder of the Flow Genome Project, an international organization dedicated to the research and training of peak performance.
His work and ideas have been covered in The New York Times, Financial Times, Wired, Entrepreneur, Harvard Business Review, Forbes, Inc., and TED. He has spoken at Stanford University, MIT, the Harvard Club, Imperial College, Singularity University, the U.S. Naval War College and Special Operations Command, Sandhurst Royal Military Academy, the Bohemian Club, and the United Nations.
This episode was filmed on September 8th, 2024
- Links -
For Jamie Wheal:
“Recapture the Rapture” (Book) https://www.recapturetherapture.com/
Flow Genome Project https://www.flowgenomeproject.com/