TED Radio Hour

Navigating uncertainty

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Jan 2, 2026
In this engaging conversation, Matt Wilson, a medical clown who lightens the mood in pediatric wards, shares fascinating stories about using play to help children cope with pain and fear. He emphasizes the importance of community and resilience in uncertain times. Hrund Gunnsteinsdóttir, an Icelandic writer and filmmaker, explores the concept of intuition, advising listeners on how to reconnect with their inner guidance. Together, they highlight the transformative power of joy, empathy, and trust in navigating life's uncertainties.
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ANECDOTE

Clowns Accompany Joy And Suffering

  • Matt Wilson described medical clowns improvising at a pediatric ward to coax smiles from scared children during painful procedures.
  • He recalled playing recorder and whoopee cushion while a six-year-old alternated between laughing and screaming during a port flush.
INSIGHT

Play As An Embodied Bridge

  • Medical clowning uses embodied, nonverbal communication to reach patients across ages and abilities.
  • Studies show clowns can reduce perceived pain, improve sleep, and help those in memory care or with autism.
ADVICE

Use Play To Build Resilience

  • Prioritize relationships, listening, and play to cope with uncertainty and build community resilience.
  • Schedule regular moments to play and connect with people who bring joy into your life, even amid crisis.
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