Data Engineering Podcast Revisit The Fundamental Principles Of Working With Data To Avoid Getting Caught In The Hype Cycle
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Data Landscape Complexity
- The data and AI landscape is too fragmented and complicated.
- Focus on fundamental principles like moving, storing, computing, and using data and metadata.
Tool Evaluation
- Treat data tools as boxes with inputs and outputs.
- Analyze if different tools share similar inputs/outputs and consider their complementarity.
Datadog for Data Observability?
- Tim Gasper's friend questioned the need for a specialized data observability tool.
- They already used Datadog, which performs similar functions for their data warehouse.
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Introduction
00:00 • 2min
How Did You Get Started in Data?
02:05 • 4min
The Data and AI Landscape Is Just Too Fragmented
05:49 • 2min
Data Observability Tools - Isn't That a Good Idea?
07:41 • 2min
Data Observability
09:31 • 3min
The Principles of Metadata Management
12:54 • 4min
The Modern Data Stack
16:54 • 3min
The Balance Between Efficiency and Resilience
20:14 • 5min
Is There a Way to Go?
25:15 • 6min
Are You Creating Spaghetti Code?
31:03 • 6min
Data Engineers - Data Translators
36:56 • 5min
Data Mesh Is a Social Technical Paradigm Shift
41:53 • 3min
Data World - A Case Study of Your Work at Data World
44:33 • 4min
The Vision and the Vision of Data.world
48:06 • 5min
Data Cataloging Knowledge
52:57 • 3min
Is Data Management Easier Than Humans?
56:12 • 2min
Is Data.World a Good Tool for Smaller Organizations?
57:59 • 2min
Using the Power of the Graph to Drive Automations
59:30 • 3min
The Biggest Gap in the Data Ecosystem
01:02:56 • 3min
Summary
The data ecosystem has seen a constant flurry of activity for the past several years, and it shows no signs of slowing down. With all of the products, techniques, and buzzwords being discussed it can be easy to be overcome by the hype. In this episode Juan Sequeda and Tim Gasper from data.world share their views on the core principles that you can use to ground your work and avoid getting caught in the hype cycles.
Announcements
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- Your host is Tobias Macey and today I'm interviewing Juan Sequeda and Tim Gasper about their views on the role of the data mesh paradigm for driving re-assessment of the foundational principles of data systems
Interview
- Introduction
- How did you get involved in the area of data management?
- What are the areas of the data ecosystem that you see the most turmoil and confusion?
- The past couple of years have brought a lot of attention to the idea of the "modern data stack". How has that influenced the ways that your and your customers' teams think about what skills they need to be effective?
- The other topic that is introducing a lot of confusion and uncertainty is the "data mesh". How has that changed the ways that teams think about who is involved in the technical and design conversations around data in an organization?
- Now that we, as an industry, have reached a new generational inflection about how data is generated, processed, and used, what are some of the foundational principles that have proven their worth?
- What are some of the new lessons that are showing the greatest promise?
- data modeling
- data platform/infrastructure
- data collaboration
- data governance/security/privacy
- How does your work at data.world work support these foundational practices?
- What are some of the ways that you work with your teams and customers to help them stay informed on industry practices?
- What is your process for understanding the balance between hype and reality as you encounter new ideas/technologies?
- What are some of the notable changes that have happened in the data.world product and market since I last had Bryon on the show in 2017?
- What are the most interesting, innovative, or unexpected ways that you have seen data.world used?
- What are the most interesting, unexpected, or challenging lessons that you have learned while working on data.world?
- When is data.world the wrong choice?
- What do you have planned for the future of data.world?
Contact Info
- Juan
- @juansequeda on Twitter
- Website
- Tim
- @TimGasper on Twitter
- Website
Parting Question
- From your perspective, what is the biggest gap in the tooling or technology for data management today?
Closing Announcements
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Links
- data.world
- Gartner Hype Cycle
- Data Mesh
- Modern Data Stack
- DataOps
- Data Observability
- Data & AI Landscape
- DataDog
- RDF == Resource Description Framework
- SPARQL
- Moshe Vardi
- Star Schema
- Data Vault
- BPMN == Business Process Modeling Notation
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