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Talking Pies, Pi Day & Patty’s Day with Warren Pies (Ep. 126)

Mar 12, 2025
Warren Pies, Co-founder of 3Fourteen Research, joins the discussion, offering expertise in macro quantitative research. They explore the latest job numbers, stressing that despite concerns, key indicators like residential construction payrolls are holding steady. The Fed's challenge of finding a neutral interest rate and its potential impact on economic growth takes center stage. Additionally, they celebrate Pi Day and St. Patrick’s Day with lighthearted anecdotes about favorite pies and Chicago's iconic green river tradition.
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Economy and Recession Risks

  • The jobs report doesn't signal a recession yet, but economic sentiment swings wildly.
  • Residential construction payrolls, a key indicator, remain strong at cycle highs.
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Restrictive Policy and the Fed

  • The Fed may need to cut rates more than expected to address restrictive policy.
  • High mortgage rates demonstrate this restrictiveness in the housing market.
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Job Growth and Recession

  • Recent job growth is concentrated in non-cyclical sectors like government and healthcare.
  • These sectors are less susceptible to sudden job cuts that could trigger a recession.
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