

26. Unweirding Change with Michael Bungay Stanier
35 snips May 19, 2025
Michael Bungay Stanier, a best-selling author and leadership expert, shares insights on the challenges of organizational change. He argues that traditional change management is outdated and discusses the importance of adapting new practices. The conversation explores the complexities of individual versus organizational change and highlights the vital role of tailored communication in engaging employees. They also tackle the often-overlooked power dynamics in organizations, urging a culture that fosters autonomy and embraces uncertainty.
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Michael's Personal Goals
- Michael Bungay-Stanier shares his personal goal of reconnecting with Toronto and finding community amid loneliness.
- He also strives to be in the best physical shape, motivated by his mastermind group’s shared fitness goals.
Four Quadrants of Change
- Change requires distinct approaches at both individual and organizational levels.
- Effective change also differs drastically between easy, trackable shifts and hard, complex transformations.
Tactics for Easy Change
- Address individual easy change by improving training and habit building.
- Use marketing and agile project management for organizational easy change to engage and track progress effectively.