We Can Do Hard Things

Jon Batiste + Suleika Jaouad: WHAT IS ENOUGH?

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Dec 4, 2025
Join Grammy-winning musician Jon Batiste and author Suleika Jaouad for a deep dive into creativity, love, and ambition. They explore the weight of perfectionism and how facing our inner 'beast' is essential. Jon shares insights on turning pain into artistic expression, while Suleika emphasizes the balance of improvisation and preparation in their collaborative works. Together, they reflect on the challenges of feeling 'enough' in a materialistic world and how to return to playfulness in creativity, offering fresh perspectives on resilience and integrity.
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ANECDOTE

Panic Turned Into A Breakthrough

  • On tour, Glennon panicked when John wanted to change their planned show last-minute.
  • Breaking script led to her best onstage experience and gratitude afterward.
ADVICE

Build A Heart-First Scaffold

  • Define the heart of your message first so everything else can improvise around it.
  • Use a loose scaffold to let the spirit move freely without losing the core point.
ADVICE

Reassess 'Enough' Together Regularly

  • Talk openly about money and retirement with your partner to recalibrate what 'enough' means.
  • Reassess goals regularly instead of assuming success will satisfy you forever.
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