Catalyst with Shayle Kann

FOAK tales

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Jan 16, 2025
Mario Fernandez leads Breakthrough Energy's FOAK finance program, specializing in infrastructure investment for climate technologies. He explores the challenges in funding first-of-a-kind projects, explaining why investors seek multiple repeatable projects. The discussion includes strategies for scaling, like the pilot-demo-FOAK path, and the difficulties of innovative commercial contracts. Mario also highlights the balance needed in financing structures and offtake agreements to attract cautious investors and reduce risks, showcasing successful models like Rondo's 'Steam as a Service'.
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INSIGHT

Proven vs. De-risked

  • Proven technologies often lack the de-risking needed for infrastructure investment.
  • This gap between proven and de-risked is a key challenge in climate tech.
ADVICE

Scaling Up Projects

  • Scale up projects in single order of magnitude increments (e.g., 10x).
  • Aim for a modular design where unit scale is numbered up, not scaled up, to reduce risk.
ADVICE

Parallel Development

  • Begin first-of-a-kind project development before demo operation completes.
  • This parallel approach saves time compared to sequential development.
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