PAPod 482 - A Conversation with Brent Sutton Part Two
Feb 3, 2024
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The podcast discusses the concept of time as a construct and its perception in quantum physics, the importance of observing normal work and shifting perspectives, implementing sustainability across business operations, infield learning and communication, the correlation between technological progress and system brittleness, and the need for organizations to shift towards a learnings-based model in risk management.
Observing normal work and engaging workers in daily activities can help identify areas of robustness and resilience as well as those prone to failure.
Leaders should adopt a listen, learn, then lead approach when implementing worker-led programs and involve all parts of the business for operational improvement.
Deep dives
Observing Normal Work and Creating a Shift in Thinking
Observing normal work is not a gimmick or something that needs to be bought off the shelf. It is a shift in thinking and a change in the lens through which work is viewed. Workers who engage in normal work on a daily basis are best positioned to identify areas of robustness and resilience, as well as areas that are fragile and prone to failure. To create an environment where it is okay for workers to speak the truth, trust needs to be established and it should be okay for the truth to be heard. Organizations often struggle with listening and tend to focus more on telling. Shifting the focus to understanding why things go right rather than just focusing on mistakes and failures is crucial for a more effective and open learning environment.
The Importance of Worker Led Programs and Operational Improvement
Leaders need to adopt a listen, learn, then lead approach when it comes to implementing worker led programs like the Four Ds (Dumb, Dangerous, Different, and Difficult). Leaders should focus on listening to workers and understanding the system rather than rushing to judgment and finding fault. The goal is to establish an environment where workers feel ownership and are empowered to identify areas for operational improvement. The key is to shift the focus from safety alone and involve all parts of the business. It is important to see the operational value in this approach rather than just the safety gains.
Future of Learning and Creating Better Work
The future of learning lies in utilizing principles such as learning teams, the Four Ds, and narrative-based approaches to create more infield learning. It is important to move away from rules-based approaches and adopt a risk performance-based model that focuses on understanding and improving work design. This means shifting from a false sense of stability provided by technological advancements to embracing dynamic risk and adaptability. Organizations need to actively listen to workers, capture their insights, and continuously learn in order to create better work. The goal should be ongoing learning and improvement, rather than a fixed mentality of finding and fixing problems.
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