Happier with Gretchen Rubin

More Happier: No “Guilty” Pleasures & Returning to the Treadmill Desk

Jun 28, 2025
Discover the joy of pursuing interests without guilt, from spontaneous trips to bookshelves filled with hidden treasures. The conversation shifts to embracing fleeting passions, showing how they can spark creativity and fun. Personal stories reflect on college nostalgia and the excitement of acquiring minor expertise in various topics. The challenges of maintaining routines, especially with a treadmill desk, highlight the delicate nature of habits and the importance of setting intentions for happiness and productivity.
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ANECDOTE

Embracing Enthusiastic Interests

  • Gretchen Rubin experiences waves of enthusiasm for specific interests like color or novels set in monasteries.
  • She embraces these interests without judgment, valuing them for pleasure or unexpected usefulness.
ADVICE

No Guilty Pleasures

  • Avoid feeling guilty for your leisure interests, like watching reality TV, if they bring you joy.
  • Embrace your pleasures without judgment as long as they don't interfere with your priorities.
ANECDOTE

Rabbit Holes Can Be Useful

  • Elizabeth Craft's deep knowledge of the O.J. Simpson trial proved useful years later when creating a TV show with one of the prosecutors.
  • She values rabbit holes for providing expertise that might unexpectedly benefit her work.
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