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1002. Insights: The digital transformation race: big banks vs neobanks.

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Oct 2, 2025
Denise Johansson, Co-founder and CEO of Enfuce, advocates for a cultural approach to modernization, emphasizing that transformation is about more than just technology. Andy Sturrock, CTO of Atom Bank, highlights the agility of cloud-native systems, enabling quicker experimentation. Richard Davies, CEO of Allica Bank, discusses strategies for serving established SMEs and argues that legacy banks often react too slowly to competition. The trio passionately debates whether incumbents can catch up to neobanks, stressing that courage and customer focus are essential for success.
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INSIGHT

Mindset Over Hardware

  • Modernization is primarily about mindset, not just swapping technology.
  • Cultural barriers like fear and silos are the main obstacles to change.
ANECDOTE

From Engineer To Neo‑Bank CTO

  • Andy Sturrock recounted joining Atom Bank after a career in engineering and banking.
  • He described Atom's products: savings, residential mortgages and commercial lending.
INSIGHT

Legacy Stability Masks Hidden Risks

  • Legacy systems are stable but face skills shortages and support risks as experts retire.
  • Cloud and modern architectures enable faster change, resilience and pay-as-you-go cost models.
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