Building Decentralized Physical AI | Fully Diluted with Messari Research | Unqualified Opinions

Feb 27, 2025

Joining the conversation are Michael Cho, Co-founder of FrodoBots, creating autonomous robots for urban navigation, and Jonathan Victor, Co-founder of Onsir Research, specializing in decentralized infrastructure. They unpack how decentralized physical AI overcomes data collection hurdles, enabling innovative applications. They discuss the evolution of robotics, including the importance of human-like designs, and the thrilling competition between AI and skilled gamers, showcasing the potential of collaborative advancements in robotics and AI.

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Intro

00:00 • 2min

Innovating with FrodoBots

02:09 • 14min

AI Versus Human: Insights from a Robotic Competition

15:57 • 3min

The Future of Embodied AI in Robotics

19:19 • 14min

Rethinking Humanoid Robotics for Safety and Intelligence

33:10 • 1min

Navigating Subnets in Robotic AI

34:40 • 16min

Join FrodoBots Lab's Co-Founder Michael Cho and Messari's Dylan Bane and Kinji Steimetz as they explore how crypto-powered robotics and decentralized networks are unlocking real-world AI applications, from urban navigation to autonomous agents.

Learn how decentralized physical AI is solving bottlenecks in data collection, model validation, and hardware scalability—and why this space could be the next big wave in crypto.The Fully Diluted Podcast with Messari Research brings you insightful, no-hype takes on what actually drives value in crypto. Subscribe to get weekly episodes with the best builders and researchers in crypto.

00:00 Intros

02:20 About Frodo and DePIN

04:28 Understanding Robotics & AI

19:18 Reward Incentives

24:21 Future of Robotics & AI

36:33 Challenges & Adoption

44:11 Data Collection & Validation

Hosted by Dylan Bane and Kinji Steimetz of Messari

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