

577. Human Rights Lawyer: Socialism, Marx & the Death Penalty
Oct 2, 2025
Clive Stafford Smith, a seasoned human rights lawyer and advocate against the death penalty, dives into a heated debate on pressing issues like Islam in the West, socialism's potential, and identity politics. He shares haunting stories from his work on death row, including witnessing executions and the emotional toll of wrongful convictions. Exploring alternatives to punitive justice, Clive emphasizes rehabilitation and understanding over retribution. His insights challenge societal norms, sparking a provocative discussion about crime, privilege, and political ideologies.
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Early Career Regrets
- Clive describes his 41 years in death penalty defence and how cases like Edward Johnson shaped him.
- He regrets mistakes in early cases and says losing defendants haunts him forever.
The Slow Torment Of Death Row
- Clive highlights death row's prolonged torment: decades of appeals and anticipation inflict severe suffering.
- He emphasizes that the psychological damage precedes execution and affects inmates and friends.
Watching Executions Firsthand
- Clive recounts watching two clients executed and compares electrocution to burning at the stake.
- He describes the sensory reality, including smells from gas executions, and its deep emotional impact.