The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast

198. Enlightenment and the Righteous Mind | Steven Pinker and Jonathan Haidt

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Oct 25, 2021
In this engaging discussion, Steven Pinker, an esteemed Harvard psychologist, and Jonathan Haidt, a social psychologist from NYU Stern, delve into the complexities of morality, truth, and society's evolution. They explore how moralism shapes political ideologies and warn against the perils of utopian thinking. The conversation highlights the decline of traditional religion and its impact on contemporary activism, while also addressing the challenges posed by social media on mental health and democratic discourse. Their insights shed light on how narratives shape cultural values and behaviors.
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Moralization and Immorality

  • Moralization, judging situations as right/wrong instead of true/false, hinders understanding.
  • History's worst atrocities stemmed from moralistic crusades, not greed, highlighting the danger of excessive moralization.
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News vs. Data

  • Journalism's negativity bias skews our worldview as it focuses on the worst events.
  • Basing understanding on data reveals progress, offering hope for future improvement.
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Utopia's Dark Side

  • Utopian ideals are dangerous because they necessitate eliminating dissent for perfect harmony.
  • History's most genocidal regimes were driven by utopian visions.
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