20VC: Keith Rabois and Mike Shebat on Creating an Olympian Mindset to Work Ethic, Why First-Time Founders are Better Than Serial Entrepreneurs, Why Remote Work Does Not Work, Why the Best Founders Always Start in their Teens & Why Companies are Cults?
Nov 27, 2023
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Keith Rabois, General Partner @ Founders Fund, and Mike Shebat, Founder and CEO @ Traba, discuss creating an Olympian mindset and work ethic, the advantages of first-time founders, the failure of remote work, and why the best founders start in their teens. They also explore the hiring process, maintaining a strong company culture, and the importance of values and identifying great investors.
Developing a strong work ethic in your 20s is crucial for laying the foundations of a successful career.
Creating a unique and cult-like company culture is essential for fostering a dedicated and committed team.
First-time founders tend to be better due to their ambitious mindset and lack of preconceived notions, but seeking guidance from experienced investors is important for navigating blind spots.
Deep dives
Importance of Building a Strong Work Ethic in Your 20s
The podcast episode emphasizes the significance of developing a strong work ethic in your 20s. Successful individuals often lay the foundations of their career during this period. The speaker highlights that many of the best people he has worked with were interns. First-time founders are also seen as better due to their ambitious mindset and lack of preconceived notions. It is essential to prioritize hard work and dedication as they can significantly impact your chances of success.
The Importance of Cult-Like Company Cultures
The podcast delves into the significance of creating a unique and cult-like company culture. Every successful company is like a cult, and every cult that works is distinct and unique. Founders Fund, for instance, focuses on investing in remote companies, setting a clear line in the sand. The episode highlights the importance of having a dedicated and committed team with a shared goal and work ethic. It is important to foster an environment where everyone is aligned and working towards a common mission.
First-Time Founders and the Power of Ambition
The discussion revolves around the strengths and advantages of first-time founders. The speakers argue that, on average, first-time founders tend to be better. Their ambitious mindset, coupled with a lack of preconceived notions, allows them to challenge the status quo and think outside the box. However, it is important for first-time founders to seek guidance and feedback from experienced investors or board members who can help navigate blind spots and provide valuable insights. While mistakes are inevitable, the lessons learned from those mistakes contribute to personal growth and future success.
The Importance of Company Culture and Hiring the Right People
Building a strong company culture and hiring the right people are crucial for the success of a startup. Focusing on titles during the hiring process can be a red flag, as it is important for employees to prioritize problem-solving and working as a team. The culture may need to adapt as the startup grows, but maintaining a high-performance environment is essential. A strong network effect can help offset the challenges of scaling, but hiring the right talent is key.
The Value of Being Unapologetic and Putting in the Work
Being unapologetic about the company's values and commitments can have positive effects downstream. Startups require dedication and hard work, especially in the early stages. Opting for remote work may not be ideal for building a successful startup, as in-person collaboration fosters better results. Taking time off during the crucial twenties can have significant opportunity costs and may limit one's career growth. It is essential to put oneself in challenging situations to constantly learn and grow.
Keith Rabois is a General Partner @ Founders Fund, one of the world's best venture funds with a portfolio including the likes of Facebook, SpaceX, Anduril, Tesla and many more. For the last 23 years straight, Keith has either invested in or founded a $BN company. Keith is also the Co-Founder and CEO @ Openstore, the company that will buy or run your Shopify business.
Mike Shebat is the Founder and CEO @ Traba, the company providing industrial staffing when and where you need it. To date, Mike has raised $49M with Traba from some of the best including Founders Fund, General Catalyst and Khosla Ventures.
In Today's Episode We Discuss:
1. What it Takes to Build a Great:
Why does Mike expect everyone to work in office 12 hours per day, 4 days per week?
At what point does an extra hour of work not lead to more output?
What are the expectations in terms of emails, out of office, the weekends?
Keith, from the 23 BN companies you have worked with, is this insane work ethic aligned to all of them? Which had it? What did not?
What core components of PayPal's work ethic made it so strong? What does Keith mean when he says Linkedin could and should have been 5x bigger?
2. The Hiring Process for the Swat Team:
What does the hiring process look like for this type of work environment?
What are the signs that someone is really aligned to it vs faking it for the interview process?
What have been Keith's biggest lessons on both compensation and title in the hiring process?
Why does Keith believe that culture is like concrete? What are the biggest mistakes he has made on culture and what would he have done differently?