The Logan Bartlett Show
EP 95: Tooey Courtemanche (CEO, Procore) Everything This Veteran CEO Would Tell Founders After Building To $11B
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Quick takeaways
- Importance of selecting compatible investors over high valuation for long-term success.
- Evolution from custom homes to commercial construction was crucial for Pro-Core's growth.
- Employee engagement initiatives like 'Culture Academy' vital for fostering a strong company culture.
- Leveraging Pro-Core's platform architecture for scalable customer onboarding sets them apart from competitors.
- Strategic capital allocation frameworks ensure effective investment in core business areas while planning for future growth.
- Balancing growth and profitability is essential for sustainable business strategies and optimal expansion outcomes.
Deep dives
Founding and Growth of Pro-Core
Pro-Core, the construction software company, founded through bootstrapping, reached $10 million in annual recurring revenue after 12-13 years. Subsequent hockey stick growth led to a 4,000-employee company. Lessons from mentors like Toby Luki and Satya Nadella influenced managing organizational scaling.
Choosing the Right Investors
Importance of selecting investors wisely highlighted by experiences with Pro-Core's investors like Brian and Will, emphasizing partner compatibility over valuation details.
Digitization of Construction Industry
Pro-Core addresses the complexity of construction projects with a common data platform, aiding project management, budgeting, schedules, and safety across different project entities. Evolution from custom homes to commercial construction catalyzed by industry shifts.
Navigating Business Challenges
Facing existential crisis during the 2008-2009 financial downturn, Pro-Core's pivot to commercial construction was crucial. Adaptive measures like installing WiFi on job sites showcased overcoming barriers to digitization in the construction sector.
Culture Development and Leadership Growth
Fostering a strong company culture involved shutting down operations to define mission, vision, and values with employee engagement initiatives like 'Culture Academy.' Balancing personal growth and leadership development with tough decisions on staff scaling.
Relationships with Competitors and Industry Insights
Standing out from competitors by leveraging Pro-Core's platform architecture for scalable customer onboarding. Insightful advice from industry veterans like Toby Luki on skill development and team growth beyond exponential business expansion.
Motivating and Engaging Employees
Maintaining employee motivation through purpose-driven focus aligned with the mission of improving construction practices globally. Techniques such as job site visits for staff to witness software impact firsthand ensure engagement and sense of purpose.
Capital Allocation Strategy and Frameworks
Utilizing strategic allocation frameworks like Horizon's Zones to navigate capital investments across Pro-Core's core business areas and future growth initiatives. Disciplined capital allocation based on prioritized zones and strategic growth plans.
Lessons from Mentors and Industry Role Models
Incorporating insights from mentors like Satya Nadella and frameworks from Jeffrey Moore's 'Crossing the Chasm' into Pro-Core's decision-making processes. Wisdom on capital allocation, leadership growth, and market expansion influences business strategies.
Investing in Long-Term Opportunities
Prioritizing investments in opportunities that yield dividends today while avoiding overinvestment in long-term prospects is crucial for effective capital allocation. As companies grow, allocating capital becomes more challenging due to serving diverse markets with varying resource needs. Establishing a framework for capital allocation and engaging leaders in decision-making ensures alignment with business goals and adaptive strategies.
Balancing Growth and Profitability
Procore's journey reflects a shift from prioritizing high growth at all costs to achieving operational efficiencies while maintaining profitability. This evolution underscores the importance of balancing growth and profitability in business strategies. Embracing 'efficient growth' as a mantra guides decision-making, focusing on sustainable expansion without sacrificing profitability. Scarcity-driven velocity and efficient resource allocation contribute to achieving optimal growth outcomes.
Importance of Talent in Entrepreneurship
Talent acquisition and retention hold paramount importance in entrepreneurial success. Identifying individuals with passion, resilience, and a deep connection to the problem space they are addressing is key. Mentorship programs should emphasize the significance of talent management in fostering innovation and long-term growth. Cultivating a strong team and fostering a culture of continuous learning and adaptability are vital facets of entrepreneurial mentorship.
Challenges in Innovation and Risk-Taking
Key insights from the podcast underscore the essence of risk-taking and innovation in entrepreneurship. Encouraging entrepreneurs to challenge their beliefs, embrace failure as a learning opportunity, and adopt an inquisitive leadership style fosters adaptive decision-making. By valuing inquiry over advocacy and soliciting diverse perspectives, leaders can navigate uncertainty, drive innovation, and make informed decisions while balancing assertiveness and thoughtfulness in their entrepreneurial journey.
Tooey Courtemanche has been the CEO of Procore for over two decades, bringing the company from $0 to over $1B ARR and a $11B+ valuation today. In my latest episode, we explore how Tooey built the #1 Construction Management Software company, including his strategies for maintaining a talented team, his mindsets for tough times, lessons from mentors like Satya Nadella, Tooey’s advice for founders, and much more.
(00:00) Intro
(01:22) Valuation and Investor Relationships: A Founder's Perspective
(04:57) Procore Explained: Revolutionizing Construction Management
(06:07) The Early Struggles and Breakthroughs of Procore
(06:40) Surviving the Global Financial Crisis and Pivoting to Success
(17:53) Cultural Shifts and the Importance of Hiring Right
(31:26) The Power of Being a Platform: Procore's Technical Edge
(33:42) The Unconventional Path to Success
(34:19) Navigating Early Business Challenges
(35:31) The Power of Partnership and Mentorship
(36:14) Securing Investment and Scaling the Business
(38:12) Leadership and Organizational Growth
(41:40) Evolving with the Business: A Founder's Journey
(45:43) Maintaining Employee Engagement and Motivation
(49:07) Strategic Capital Allocation and Product Innovation
(53:53) Expanding Internationally: Lessons and Strategies
(56:14) Decision-Making and Leadership Style
(58:03) Balancing Growth and Profitability
(01:01:30) Advice for Aspiring Entrepreneurs
(01:05:37) Rethinking Education and Career Paths
(01:11:56) Reflecting on Societal Transformation
(01:13:11) From Encyclopedias to AI
(01:13:56) AI's Impact on the Construction Industry
(01:17:13) Personal Journey: From Carpentry to Tech Entrepreneur
(01:19:45) The Genesis of Procore: Merging Construction and Technology
(01:26:11) Mentoring Entrepreneurs
(01:31:47) The Therapeutic World of Lego Building
(01:38:16) Lessons from Lego
Executive Producer: Rashad Assir
Producer: Leah Clapper
Mixing and editing: Justin Hrabovsky
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Logan Bartlett is a Software Investor at Redpoint Ventures - a Silicon Valley-based VC with $6B AUM and investments in Snowflake, DraftKings, Twilio, and Netflix. In each episode of The Logan Bartlett Show, we sit down with the people behind today’s most important startups and extract the tactics, lessons, and frameworks they’ve learned the hard way. Conversations span hiring to GTM, product, growth, fundraising and everything in between - collectively forming the ultimate playbook to make you a better CEO, investor or board member.
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