The Lawfare Podcast
Lawfare Archive: #AbolishICE?
Dec 1, 2024
In this discussion, Paul Rosenzweig, a former policy guru at DHS, and Carrie Cordero, an immigration policy expert, dive into the heated 'Abolish ICE' debate. They assess the impact of ICE’s operations on communities and whether the movement represents a genuine policy shift or a mere rebranding. The conversation also highlights the evolution of immigration enforcement post-9/11 and critiques aggressive tactics used by ICE. Ultimately, they advocate for substantial reforms that prioritize humane treatment and targeted legislation.
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- The popularity of the #AbolishICE slogan underscores widespread dissatisfaction with U.S. immigration enforcement, particularly regarding the family separation policies.
- Experts argue that instead of merely abolishing ICE, focus should shift towards reforming immigration laws to ensure humane practices and address systemic issues.
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Understanding the 'Abolish ICE' Movement
The phrase 'Abolish ICE' has gained traction as both a literal policy proposal and a political slogan reflecting widespread dissatisfaction with U.S. immigration enforcement, particularly concerning the family separation issue during the Trump administration. This slogan represents the anger felt by many regarding perceived inhumanities within the immigration system. However, experts argue that simply abolishing ICE would not fundamentally resolve the underlying issues, as immigration enforcement would still require a structure to operate effectively. Instead, the conversation should focus on improving the immigration laws themselves rather than getting caught up in the political rhetoric surrounding the slogan.
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