Liz Shuler, the first female president of the AFL-CIO, dives into the curious disconnect between rising public support for labor and dwindling union membership. She discusses the surge of organizing efforts at companies like Amazon and Starbucks, emphasizing the ongoing relevance of unions in today's economy. Shuler also highlights the revival of labor strikes and the challenges unions face in non-traditional sectors. The conversation underscores the potential for unions to address economic inequality while navigating modern labor dynamics, including the push for well-paying jobs in the clean energy transition.