Organized labor hasn’t had this much public support in 50 years, and yet the percentage of Americans in a union is near a record low. A.F.L-C.I.O. president Liz Shuler tries to explain this gap — and persuade Stephen Dubner that “the folks who brought you the weekend” still have the leverage to fix a broken economy.

Walmart's executive VP discusses AI in stores, while the Acting Labor Secretary and AFL-CIO President talk about the impact of AI on workers and the responsibility of companies. They also explore worker wellbeing, the need for an AI safety net, and the concerns surrounding job security and democratic elections.