Narratives w/Will Jarvis

149: Nathan Allebach - Twitter, Urbanism and Discourse

May 30, 2023

01:00:30

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Episode notes

Introduction

4min

The Importance of Marketing and Movement

3min

The Power of Provocative Messaging in the Social Movement

6min

How to Rate Yimby Messaging

2min

The Politics of Deregulation

5min

How to Be Successful on Twitter

4min

How to Be an Example to the World When You Have No Control Over What Everyone Else Is Doing

2min

The Propensity to Find Your People on Social Media

5min

The Right and the Left Hate Yimbyism

5min

10.

The Yimby's Politics of Tribalism

5min

11.

How to Choose the Right Frame for Your Campaign

3min

12.

The Freedom Angle of Zoning

3min

13.

The Importance of Reframing Politics

3min

14.

The Importance of Convincing People

3min

15.

The Importance of Diversity in Movements

6min

narratives - nathan final Summary

Nathan’s background. 0:05
- Introduction to the podcast and the guest.
- Nathan's bio and his interest in urbanism.
- Stumbling into the discourse of urbanism.
- How he first got interested in the topic.
Nathan’s marketing background. 4:02
- Nathan talks about marketing and movement.
- Nathan shares his take on marketing.
How to best navigate social media discourse? 6:15
- Observing various forms of discourse on social media.
- Cars vs other forms of transportation.
- The 15 minutes cities conspiracy theory going viral.
- How to win people over.
Nathan’s first instinct when he first heard about this. 11:42
- The psychology of conspiracy theories and how they form.
- Nathan shares his thoughts on current EMP messaging and how to improve it.
- The challenge of explaining urbanism to the left.
- Dark money and deregulatory talk.
Is there a conspiracy on twitter? 17:36
- Skepticism toward power, paranoia and lack of ability to work around it.
- Twitter is toxic.
Lessons learned from twitter. 20:31
- Lessons learned from tiktok and how he manages his communications.
- Tiktock is a health sign.
- The benefits of being a youtuber on Twitter and tiktok.
- Making a statement for yourself.
Contrarian rebelling on social media. 25:20
- Being an anti-group from a young age.
- The internet is full of people like you.
- The intellectual dark web and social media.
- How social media is like the urbanist movement.
- Emv vs urbanest in their bio.
- Freddy de boer, critical of vmb.
The aesthetics and vibes of a movement. 31:55
- Reservations about joining a group, aesthetics, vibes and who's in the room.
- Deep blue texas.
- Defining the differences between left and right.
- How humans work, and why it matters.
How do we interpret our political leanings? 36:19
- No party is free of guilt.
- Tribalism is any kind of group thing.
- AOC is a lightning rod of discourse.
- AOC and the left-right divide.
Practical examples of the problem with framing and framing. 42:05
- The difference between a conservative and a conservative.
- Practical examples in activism.
- Single-family zoning and how it is framed.
- How conservatives react to single- family zoning.
How to get people to care. 47:03
- Why most people don't care about politics.
- How to choose the right messaging.
- Reframing politics around culture and policy engagement.
- Taking a step back regularly to recalibrate.
Advice to the young people. 52:28
- Ten good-faith, thoughtful arguments vs one or two bad-faith responses.
- Online friends vs real-life friends.
- Advice for a budding movement trying to change the world.
- Follow their passions.
Where are your strengths? 56:59
- Everyone is passionate about something, even if it's something stupid.
- Not everybody can be joe rogan.
- The anti-podcaster meme, and why it's a bad thing.
- Bismarck analysis newsletter.
  narratives - nathan final Summary
  - Nathan’s background. 0:05
    - Introduction to the podcast and the guest.
    - Nathan's bio and his interest in urbanism.
    - Stumbling into the discourse of urbanism.
    - How he first got interested in the topic.
  - Nathan’s marketing background. 4:02
    - Nathan talks about marketing and movement.
    - Nathan shares his take on marketing.
  - How to best navigate social media discourse? 6:15
    - Observing various forms of discourse on social media.
    - Cars vs other forms of transportation.
    - The 15 minutes cities conspiracy theory going viral.
    - How to win people over.
  - Nathan’s first instinct when he first heard about this. 11:42
    - The psychology of conspiracy theories and how they form.
    - Nathan shares his thoughts on current EMP messaging and how to improve it.
    - The challenge of explaining urbanism to the left.
    - Dark money and deregulatory talk.
  - Is there a conspiracy on twitter? 17:36
    - Skepticism toward power, paranoia and lack of ability to work around it.
    - Twitter is toxic.
  - Lessons learned from twitter. 20:31
    - Lessons learned from tiktok and how he manages his communications.
    - Tiktock is a health sign.
    - The benefits of being a youtuber on Twitter and tiktok.
    - Making a statement for yourself.
  - Contrarian rebelling on social media. 25:20
    - Being an anti-group from a young age.
    - The internet is full of people like you.
    - The intellectual dark web and social media.
    - How social media is like the urbanist movement.
    - Emv vs urbanest in their bio.
    - Freddy de boer, critical of vmb.
  - The aesthetics and vibes of a movement. 31:55
    - Reservations about joining a group, aesthetics, vibes and who's in the room.
    - Deep blue texas.
    - Defining the differences between left and right.
    - How humans work, and why it matters.
  - How do we interpret our political leanings? 36:19
    - No party is free of guilt.
    - Tribalism is any kind of group thing.
    - AOC is a lightning rod of discourse.
    - AOC and the left-right divide.
  - Practical examples of the problem with framing and framing. 42:05
    - The difference between a conservative and a conservative.
    - Practical examples in activism.
    - Single-family zoning and how it is framed.
    - How conservatives react to single- family zoning.
  - How to get people to care. 47:03
    - Why most people don't care about politics.
    - How to choose the right messaging.
    - Reframing politics around culture and policy engagement.
    - Taking a step back regularly to recalibrate.
  - Advice to the young people. 52:28
    - Ten good-faith, thoughtful arguments vs one or two bad-faith responses.
    - Online friends vs real-life friends.
    - Advice for a budding movement trying to change the world.
    - Follow their passions.
  - Where are your strengths? 56:59
    - Everyone is passionate about something, even if it's something stupid.
    - Not everybody can be joe rogan.
    - The anti-podcaster meme, and why it's a bad thing.
    - Bismarck analysis newsletter.

narratives - nathan final

Summary

Nathan’s background. 0:05
- Introduction to the podcast and the guest.
- Nathan's bio and his interest in urbanism.
- Stumbling into the discourse of urbanism.
- How he first got interested in the topic.
Nathan’s marketing background. 4:02
- Nathan talks about marketing and movement.
- Nathan shares his take on marketing.
How to best navigate social media discourse? 6:15
- Observing various forms of discourse on social media.
- Cars vs other forms of transportation.
- The 15 minutes cities conspiracy theory going viral.
- How to win people over.
Nathan’s first instinct when he first heard about this. 11:42
- The psychology of conspiracy theories and how they form.
- Nathan shares his thoughts on current EMP messaging and how to improve it.
- The challenge of explaining urbanism to the left.
- Dark money and deregulatory talk.
Is there a conspiracy on twitter? 17:36
- Skepticism toward power, paranoia and lack of ability to work around it.
- Twitter is toxic.
Lessons learned from twitter. 20:31
- Lessons learned from tiktok and how he manages his communications.
- Tiktock is a health sign.
- The benefits of being a youtuber on Twitter and tiktok.
- Making a statement for yourself.
Contrarian rebelling on social media. 25:20
- Being an anti-group from a young age.
- The internet is full of people like you.
- The intellectual dark web and social media.
- How social media is like the urbanist movement.
- Emv vs urbanest in their bio.
- Freddy de boer, critical of vmb.
The aesthetics and vibes of a movement. 31:55
- Reservations about joining a group, aesthetics, vibes and who's in the room.
- Deep blue texas.
- Defining the differences between left and right.
- How humans work, and why it matters.
How do we interpret our political leanings? 36:19
- No party is free of guilt.
- Tribalism is any kind of group thing.
- AOC is a lightning rod of discourse.
- AOC and the left-right divide.
Practical examples of the problem with framing and framing. 42:05
- The difference between a conservative and a conservative.
- Practical examples in activism.
- Single-family zoning and how it is framed.
- How conservatives react to single- family zoning.
How to get people to care. 47:03
- Why most people don't care about politics.
- How to choose the right messaging.
- Reframing politics around culture and policy engagement.
- Taking a step back regularly to recalibrate.
Advice to the young people. 52:28
- Ten good-faith, thoughtful arguments vs one or two bad-faith responses.
- Online friends vs real-life friends.
- Advice for a budding movement trying to change the world.
- Follow their passions.
Where are your strengths? 56:59
- Everyone is passionate about something, even if it's something stupid.
- Not everybody can be joe rogan.
- The anti-podcaster meme, and why it's a bad thing.
- Bismarck analysis newsletter.
  narratives - nathan final Summary
  - Nathan’s background. 0:05
    - Introduction to the podcast and the guest.
    - Nathan's bio and his interest in urbanism.
    - Stumbling into the discourse of urbanism.
    - How he first got interested in the topic.
  - Nathan’s marketing background. 4:02
    - Nathan talks about marketing and movement.
    - Nathan shares his take on marketing.
  - How to best navigate social media discourse? 6:15
    - Observing various forms of discourse on social media.
    - Cars vs other forms of transportation.
    - The 15 minutes cities conspiracy theory going viral.
    - How to win people over.
  - Nathan’s first instinct when he first heard about this. 11:42
    - The psychology of conspiracy theories and how they form.
    - Nathan shares his thoughts on current EMP messaging and how to improve it.
    - The challenge of explaining urbanism to the left.
    - Dark money and deregulatory talk.
  - Is there a conspiracy on twitter? 17:36
    - Skepticism toward power, paranoia and lack of ability to work around it.
    - Twitter is toxic.
  - Lessons learned from twitter. 20:31
    - Lessons learned from tiktok and how he manages his communications.
    - Tiktock is a health sign.
    - The benefits of being a youtuber on Twitter and tiktok.
    - Making a statement for yourself.
  - Contrarian rebelling on social media. 25:20
    - Being an anti-group from a young age.
    - The internet is full of people like you.
    - The intellectual dark web and social media.
    - How social media is like the urbanist movement.
    - Emv vs urbanest in their bio.
    - Freddy de boer, critical of vmb.
  - The aesthetics and vibes of a movement. 31:55
    - Reservations about joining a group, aesthetics, vibes and who's in the room.
    - Deep blue texas.
    - Defining the differences between left and right.
    - How humans work, and why it matters.
  - How do we interpret our political leanings? 36:19
    - No party is free of guilt.
    - Tribalism is any kind of group thing.
    - AOC is a lightning rod of discourse.
    - AOC and the left-right divide.
  - Practical examples of the problem with framing and framing. 42:05
    - The difference between a conservative and a conservative.
    - Practical examples in activism.
    - Single-family zoning and how it is framed.
    - How conservatives react to single- family zoning.
  - How to get people to care. 47:03
    - Why most people don't care about politics.
    - How to choose the right messaging.
    - Reframing politics around culture and policy engagement.
    - Taking a step back regularly to recalibrate.
  - Advice to the young people. 52:28
    - Ten good-faith, thoughtful arguments vs one or two bad-faith responses.
    - Online friends vs real-life friends.
    - Advice for a budding movement trying to change the world.
    - Follow their passions.
  - Where are your strengths? 56:59
    - Everyone is passionate about something, even if it's something stupid.
    - Not everybody can be joe rogan.
    - The anti-podcaster meme, and why it's a bad thing.
    - Bismarck analysis newsletter.

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