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Episode 158: Pastors Plagiarizing: An Example Using Josh Howerton--with Scot McKnight's commentary

Sep 8, 2022

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The Priests Are Treating the Lord's Offering With Contempt

05:01

The Cult Is Like a Carismatic Leader, Right?

03:01

The Church Is Really Sick Right Now

02:44

Introduction

6min

Are You the Person the Person You're Looking for Is Looking For?

5min

The Law of Idolized Demonizing

4min

Is It a Plagiarism?

4min

Is That a Thematic Line to a Sermon?

3min

Pastors Are Not Journal Articles, They're Not Academic Performances

3min

Is Everything Dependent on Someone?

2min

Do Seminaries Teach Not to Cite in Sermons?

5min

I Think He's Covering a Lot of Ground With Words That Need Some Nuance

4min

10.

Why Would You Not Quote Stephen Fertick?

2min

11.

How to Start Reading Your Bible With These Ittle Study Guides

5min

12.

Are You Trying to Get a Pastor to Come Up With a Session?

5min

13.

The Cult Is Like a Carismatic Leader, Right?

3min

14.

Are You Trying to Be a Good Pastor?

4min

15.

The Priests Are Treating the Lord's Offering With Contempt

5min

16.

The Church Is Really Sick Right Now

3min

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Should pastors be allowed to plagiarize in their sermons?
I’ll be frank: I think evangelicalism has a problem with celebrity, as we talked about on last week’s podcast. And I think plagiarism is part of that celebrity. It’s rampant among pastors and authors in evangelicalism, and it allows people to give a false sense of themselves to others to boost their status. It needs to stop.

Links to things mentioned:

Scot McKnight's book A Church Called TOV
Scot McKnight's New Testament Everyday Bible Study Series
Scot McKnight's previous podcast with us
Warren Throckmorton on Mark Driscoll's apparent plagiarism
David Dzimianski on Tim Keller's apparent plagiarism
Aaron New on Tim Clinton's history of Plagiarism
Christine Caine's plagiarism
Josh Howerton's Twitter Threads
Original Twitter Thread (long) about how plagiarism by pastors is fine
More recent Tweet about ethics of using someone's material without naming them if you disagree with them
Articles on Controversy with Josh Howerton and Andy Wood
Article Explaining Andy Wood controversy with Mark Driscoll
Andy Stanley's book The New Rules of Love, Sex and Dating
YouTube sermon where Andy Stanley goes over the central points of this book, which Josh Howerton seems to have used
(start at around 22:00)
Steven Furtick sermon with "two halves don't make a whole"
(start around 6:30)
Josh Howerton sermon where he says arguing with him is like arguing with God
(start around 12:20)

Note: The sermon we're referring to I originally saw because it was listed on this page. That sermon has since been removed. It is the only sermon from 2022 that can no longer be found on the Lakepointe Church site, on YouTube, and on their podcast archives. It was there a few weeks ago; it's now gone. I have no idea why, unless he got wind of what we were doing (some people did know, and there have been "breadcrumbs" in

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