In today's episode, I talk with Michael and Leela Hunter, the creators of UpSpiral Life — a year-long program and community that combines IFS, manifestation, and neurofeedback.
We explore what manifestation really means through an IFS lens, how subconscious parts shape our experience, and why “feeling good” is a nervous system state we can track and train.
Our conversation explores how IFS intersects with manifestation, nervous system states, and the beliefs our parts hold about what’s possible.
Key takeaways:
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How parts influence what we manifest
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Self Energy as a measurable frequency
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Why some protectors are allergic to “feeling good”
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How neurofeedback can support deeper IFS work
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Shifting vibration is getting curious about what’s happening inside
Michael is the founder of UpSpiral.Life, a program and community that helps people move from burnout and disconnection into greater flow, purpose, and alignment. With a background in acupuncture and the arts, Michael guides clients through personal transformation by challenging modern conditioning and helping them reconnect with what truly matters.
Leela is an IFS therapist, consultant, and the Clinical Director of UpSpiral.Life. She supports clients in exploring limiting beliefs and emotional burdens with compassion and curiosity. As an Afghan Muslim woman with over 15 years of experience, Leela brings cultural depth and personal insight to her healing work.
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