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How AI Is Changing SEO: What Every Agency Owner Needs to Know with Vishal Mahida | Ep #853

Nov 12, 2025
Vishal Mahida, Director of Digital Marketing at E2M Solutions, shares insights on how AI is transforming SEO. He clarifies the distinction between traditional SEO and AI optimization, emphasizing the role of LLMs like ChatGPT in search strategies. Vishal highlights the importance of adapting client KPIs and rethinking reporting metrics, while also discussing the necessity for agencies to perform AI audits. He argues that business owners still need agencies for effective AI management, ensuring brands remain discoverable in an evolving digital landscape.
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INSIGHT

Search Has Fragmented Beyond Google

  • Search has fragmented beyond Google to LLMs like ChatGPT, Perplexity, and Claude.
  • AI optimization requires visibility across multiple platforms, not just Google rankings.
INSIGHT

LLMs Synthesize Broad Web Signals

  • LLMs break queries into many sub-queries and summarize web signals including reviews and UGC.
  • Being cited across forums, social, and review sites increases chances of being surfaced by LLMs.
ADVICE

Report New KPIs, Not Just Organic Traffic

  • Stop relying on organic traffic as the primary KPI and educate clients about new metrics.
  • Track conversions, referral traffic from LLMs, and server logs to see LLM bot visits and citeability.
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