
Squawk Pod MBS at The White House, A ‘Joyless’ AI Boom, & MTV’s Legacy 11/19/25
Nov 19, 2025
In this engaging discussion, Greg Ip, Chief economics commentator for The Wall Street Journal, examines the current AI boom, highlighting its 'joyless' mood compared to the optimistic 90s dot-com era. He raises concerns about public distrust, job risks, and the uneven benefits of AI innovation. Meanwhile, Tom Freston, co-founder of MTV and former Viacom CEO, reflects on his memoir 'Unplugged,' sharing insights into MTV's cultural impact and the future of media, suggesting ways to rejuvenate the network for a digital audience.
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White House Frames Saudi Visit As Jobs Boost
- The Trump administration framed the Saudi visit around jobs and massive investment pledges.
- Eamon Javers reports the White House touted up to $1 trillion in Saudi investment commitments.
Diplomacy Despite Past Atrocities
- The dinner marked a diplomatic rehabilitation for Mohammed bin Salman despite Khashoggi's murder.
- Eamon Javers notes the CIA had high confidence of MBS's involvement, yet the White House moved toward full engagement.
AI Boom Feels Joyless
- The AI boom feels ‘joyless’ compared with the 1990s dot‑com era, driven more by anxiety than exuberance.
- Greg Ip links public distrust, bad national mood, and fears about jobs to this subdued atmosphere.






