Ep. 224 - The SE ETC Series - Tips for Having Difficult Conversations with Chris and Patrick
Aug 28, 2023
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Chris Hadnagy, CEO of Social-Engineer LLC, and Patrick Laverty, social engineering expert, discuss tips for having difficult conversations. They emphasize the importance of understanding communication styles, eliciting information effectively, maintaining a calm demeanor, and ending conversations on a positive note.
Social Engineer offers managed services centered around phishing, smishing, and impersonation to combat prevalent social engineering attacks in businesses.
The importance of open communication, authenticity, and utilizing principles of influence in difficult conversations with children and in professional settings is highlighted.
Deep dives
Creating a Safe Environment against Social Engineering Attacks
Social engineering attacks are prevalent in every company, with close to 90% of all breaches having some connection to it. To combat this, Social Engineer offers managed services centered around fishing, smishing, and impersonation. Businesses struggling with fishing attacks are encouraged to seek their help. They also announced the availability of a master's level social engineering course open to the public, providing comprehensive training in red teaming. Joining their Slack channel is also recommended for professionals interested in discussing social engineering in a family-friendly and legal environment.
Effective Strategies to Have Difficult Conversations
The importance of open communication, even in difficult conversations, is highlighted. The Human Hacking book provides a 10-step outline for having productive conversations, whether with children or in professional settings. Establishing a goal, choosing an appropriate pretext, and building rapport are essential steps. By utilizing various principles of influence and elicitation, such as liking, consistency, and social proof, these conversations can be successful. Additionally, using open-ended questions and being aware of nonverbal cues promote authenticity. Finally, ending the conversation on a positive note helps solidify the gains made in communication.
Understanding Communication Dynamics with Empathy
Parents are encouraged to be empathetic when approaching difficult conversations with their children. Creating a safe and non-blaming environment fosters better understanding and encourages open dialogue. By mapping the terrain, defining goals, and deciding on a suitable pretext, parents can effectively communicate. Understanding communication profiles, including the child's nonverbal cues and preferred communication style, assists in building rapport. Recognizing potential contingencies, avoiding manipulation, and maintaining authenticity are emphasized. This allows for productive and meaningful conversations that strengthen relationships and promote trust.
Applying Effective Communication Techniques
The podcast episode discusses the importance of effective communication techniques, specifically in conversations with children. It emphasizes the need for authenticity in speech and nonverbal cues, ensuring they align with the intended message. Utilizing principles of influence, such as reciprocity and social proof, can establish rapport and encourage open dialogue. By understanding potential contingencies and planning accordingly, parents can navigate conversations with clarity and purpose. Maintaining empathy and actively listening to the child's perspective promotes understanding and fosters trust and cooperation.
Welcome to the Social-Engineer Podcast: The SE Etc. Series. This series will be hosted by Chris Hadnagy, CEO of Social-Engineer LLC, and The Innocent Lives Foundation, as well as Social-Engineer.Org and The Institute for Social Engineering. Chris will be joined by his co-host Patrick Laverty as they discuss topics pertaining to the world of Social Engineering. [August 28, 2023]