SaaStr 685: Why Investors Love SaaS with SaaStr CEO Jason Lemkin and QED Partner Amias Gerety on Fintech Beat
Sep 2, 2023
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SaaS founder Jason Lemkin and QED Partner Amias Gerety discuss the appeal of SaaS to investors, the rise of SaaS as a valued business model, the cyclical nature of FinTech and its risks, challenges of running a lending business, and the importance of proper controls in startups.
SaaS companies' high gross margins and ability to generate cash flow have made them attractive to investors.
Investors often mistakenly apply SaaS metrics to Fintech companies, leading to inflated valuations and potential fraud issues.
Deep dives
The Growth of SaaS Companies
SaaS, or Software as a Service, has become a popular business model in the tech industry. While consumer-facing tech stocks like Facebook and Amazon dominate the public market, venture capital is driven by the success of SaaS companies. These companies, such as Splunk and Salesforce, provide software over the cloud and generate recurring revenue. Initially viewed with skepticism, SaaS models have proven to be successful, with high logo retention and net revenue retention rates being key factors. The SaaS model's high gross margins and ability to generate cash flow have made it attractive to investors.
The Appeal of SaaS for Investors
Investors have fallen in love with the SaaS model due to its potential for generating substantial cash flow. Unlike traditional software sales, SaaS companies generate revenue through recurring payments and have high gross margins. The market's initial skepticism about these models, similar to how it viewed Amazon in the early days, has now been replaced with an understanding of their profitability. Many SaaS leaders have become profitable, with positive operating margins of over 20%. These high-dollar retention and gross margin models are viewed favorably by the public markets, leading to increased investor interest.
Challenges in Evaluating Fintech and SaaS
While SaaS models have gained popularity, investors often draw comparisons between Fintech and SaaS companies. However, there are important distinctions to consider. Fintech companies, reliant on lending, underwriting, and payments infrastructure, face different challenges and operational costs compared to SaaS companies. The tendency to view Fintech companies through the same lens as SaaS, assuming high revenue retention and gross margins, has led to inflated valuations and potential fraud issues. It is crucial to assess Fintech companies' actual business models and understand the nuances and costs involved.
Guidance for Founders in the SaaS Space
Founders in the SaaS industry must have a clear vision of the future and the ability to anticipate market trends. The best founders can articulate how their market will evolve over the next five to seven years, demonstrating a deep understanding of their industry. Great founders are rare and should be supported even during challenging times. However, if a founder cannot see the future of their space or has lost confidence in their ability to navigate it, returning capital might be a viable option. It is crucial for founders to recalibrate their strategies based on changing market dynamics and ensure that they can continue to see the future of their industry.
SaaStr Founder and CEO Jason Lemkin and Partner at QED Investors Amias Gerety chat on the Fintech Beat podstream about all things SaaS, money, and what makes a great founder.
Some topics covered include:
What makes SaaS so great
How SaaS is fairing in the “macro” economy
Perspectives on fintech and SaaS and how they overlap
How an investor chooses what to invest in and when it’s time to walk away
Fintech Beat is all about the intersection of finance, tech, and policy, and now they’re touring outside the neighborhood of fintech and into the great big world of SaaS.
While the world of public tech stocks is defined by consumer-facing juggernauts like Facebook, Amazon, and Google, the world of venture capital is defined by the North Star of SaaS.
Let’s dive right in.
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