TCC Podcast #369: Writing Sales Pages with Rob Marsh and Kira Hug
Nov 13, 2023
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Rob Marsh and Kira Hug discuss writing sales pages on The Copywriter Club Podcast. They share formulas for writing, landing assignments, and improving skills. Topics include addressing pain points, visual elements, and the value of swipes in sales page writing.
Sales pages directly lead to higher-paying copywriting projects.
Thorough research is essential for crafting persuasive sales copy.
Effective sales pages employ attention-grabbing headlines, storytelling, and addressing objections.
Deep dives
Importance of Sales Pages in Copywriting
Sales pages are crucial for copywriters to master as they provide the opportunity for higher-paying copywriting projects. Unlike blog posts or case studies, sales pages directly lead to the sale of a product or service, making it easier to justify charging higher prices for copywriting work. In this podcast episode, the hosts discuss the importance of sales pages, sharing their approach, research methods, and formulas for creating effective sales copy. They emphasize the need to understand the product, the person behind it, the target audience, and competitors. Additionally, they highlight the value of recording sales calls and interviewing prospects who did not make a purchase to gain insights for optimizing sales pages. Visual elements, such as calendars, are also mentioned as valuable tools for capturing the attention and interest of different types of customers.
Researching and Understanding the Product and Customers
The hosts emphasize the significance of thorough research when writing sales pages. They advocate for experiencing the product firsthand, understanding the story behind it, and gathering feedback from buyers for a more comprehensive understanding of its benefits. They also stress the importance of understanding the target audience, their objections, and the competition in order to craft persuasive and compelling sales copy. The hosts further discuss the value of appealing to different types of customers by addressing their specific needs, preferences, and intelligences.
Proven Techniques and Secrets for Effective Sales Pages
The hosts share proven techniques and secrets for creating effective sales pages. They discuss the importance of attention-grabbing headlines, subheads, and intriguing bullet points. They also advocate for telling stories that allow customers to connect with the copy. Bribery is suggested as a way to add value and entice potential buyers. The hosts recommend introducing product experts and resolving objections, along with highlighting the value and guarantee associated with the offer. Urgency and a compelling call to action are emphasized to inspire customers to take immediate action. Finally, the hosts stress that ongoing learning, studying sales pages, seeking feedback, and staying updated with the latest trends are key to improving copywriting skills.
Importance of Understanding Sales Pages
Understanding the structure and elements of a sales page is crucial for copywriters. Long-form sales pages require a specific skill set and are harder to find good copywriters for than other types of copy. However, specializing in writing compelling sales pages can be a valuable niche as they are closely tied to the actual sales of a product. Clients are often willing to pay higher fees for sales pages because of the direct impact on sales. It is important to study and analyze successful sales pages to understand the techniques used and how they evoke emotions and address objections. While handwriting or copying sales pages can be a useful exercise for some, it is more critical to focus on deconstructing the persuasion methods employed and understanding the logic behind them.
The Value of a Well-Structured Sales Page
Good long-form sales pages can significantly impact the success of a product or service. By effectively conveying the unique mechanism, offering a compelling story or background, and addressing potential hesitations or objections, a sales page can convert prospects into buyers. It is crucial to provide value and demonstrate believability by accurately representing the worth of an offer without resorting to hype. The value stack section in a sales page can be strengthened by thoroughly explaining each component and providing relevant research or statistics. Additionally, segmenting audiences and tailoring messages to different stages of awareness can enhance the effectiveness of a sales page. Email sequences can also be used in conjunction with sales pages to engage and persuade potential buyers.
This is 369th episode of The Copywriter Club Podcast. And today Kira and Rob talk in depth about writing sales pages. They share their formulas for writing, how they landed their first sales page assignments, and the best ways to improve your skills when it comes to writing sales pages. You definitely don't want to miss this episode.
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Full Transcript:
As content writers and copywriters gain experience and work on different types of projects, many of them express interest in doing less content work like blog posts and more sales copy work. There are a lot of reasons for this. One big reason is that sales pages are closely tied to the sale of the product or service you are writing about, so it’s easier to justify charging higher prices for the work you do. The sales page leads directly to the sale, where a blog post or case study may be a couple of steps away.
Hi, I’m Rob Marsh, one of the founders of The Copywriter Club. And on today’s episode of The Copywriter Club Podcast, my co-founder, Kira Hug and I are talking about sales pages. How we approach them. The research we do. The formulas we use to write them. And our secrets for making sure they work as promised. If you write sales copy or want to write sales pages in the future, you may want to stick around for this one.
But first, this episode of The Copywriter Club Podcast is brought to you by The Copywriter Underground. It is truly the best membership for copywriters and content writers… let me just give you an idea of what you get for $87 a month… first there’s a monthly group coaching call with Kira and me where you can get answers to your questions, advice for overcoming any business or client or writing challenge you have. There are weekly copy critiques where we give you feedback on your copy or content. There are regular training sessions on different copy techniques and business practices designed to help you get better. And we’re adding a new monthly AI tool review where we share a new AI tool or a technique or prompt you can do with AI get more done. That’s on top of the massive library of training and templates. And the community is full of copywriters ready to help you with just about anything… including sharing leads from time to time. Find out more at thecopywriterclub.com/tcu
And with that, let’s go to our discussion for some of what we’ve learned over the past few weeks.
Kira Hug: Well I think it's exciting that we are talking together twice in a row back to back. We've never done that on this podcast. Usually it's like 1 podcast for the 2 of us and then maybe ten later we get back on together.
Rob Marsh: Yeah, it's definitely been a while, if it has happened at all. I'd have to go back through… I mean it's probably because you and I talk to each other a lot, but we don't record those and share those as podcasts. So.
Kira Hug: This is the first. It's never happened.
Rob Marsh: Maybe we're opening up the doors a little bit to some of our personal conversations here, I don't know, but hopefully people will enjoy what we have to share today.
Kira Hug: Well, it's also snowing here in Maine. It's the first snow of the season. Okay it slowed down. It stopped, but it was snowing all morning. It's absolutely beautiful and it put me in such a good mood, like you just can't bring me down right now.
Rob Marsh: Do you have a blanket and hot chocolate anything by the fire?
Kira Hug: I've been I've been making stew and just drinking hot water. And I'm so ready for the holidays I just drink hot water…
Rob Marsh: Wait… You're drinking hot water, like not tea?
Kira Hug: I just drink hot water. So I stopped drinking caffeine since London when I got sick because I felt awful anyway. So anytime I get sick, I'm like, “Well I may as well cut out some of my vices because I already feel awful.” So I'm not drinking caffeine.
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