Chapters 
 Transcript 
 Episode notes 
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 Introduction 
 00:00 • 2min 
 The Immature Response to Music 
 01:36 • 4min 
 The Relationship Between a Song and a Record Label 
 05:45 • 3min 
 Shape of You: A Beautiful Arc 
 09:14 • 2min 
 The Longest Time You Spin on a Song 
 11:30 • 1min 
 The Fear of the Unknown 
 12:56 • 2min 
 Eyes Closed 
 14:37 • 2min 
 The Importance of Owning the Narrative 
 16:22 • 2min 
 The Power of Honesty 
 18:20 • 2min 
 The Importance of Grief 
 20:33 • 3min 
 The Importance of Grieving Through Art 
 23:21 • 2min 
 The Importance of Allowing Yourself to Feel Instead of Crying 
 25:16 • 2min 
 The Importance of Resolve 
 27:06 • 4min 
 The Impact of the Court Case on Songwriting 
 31:03 • 2min 
 The Core Value of a Songwriter 
 32:43 • 2min 
 The Importance of Friendship in Art 
 34:37 • 2min 
 The Fragility of the Artistic Spirit 
 36:33 • 2min 
 Dusty on the Record 
 38:05 • 2min 
 The Pilgrimage of Jamal Alba 
 39:54 • 2min 
 The Importance of Music in Grief 
 41:57 • 2min 
 The Joy of Not Pushing the Button 
 43:33 • 3min 
 How to Be a Fucking Monster 
 47:01 • 2min 
 The Best Conversation I've Had in Ages 
 48:36 • 2min 
 The Most Uncomfortable Record Ever 
 50:35 • 2min 
 The Importance of Being Open 
 52:12 • 3min 


