
The Modern People Leader: Forward-Thinking HR
Build - Jessica Zwaan: Story behind her obsession w/ People Ops as a Product
Apr 11, 2025
Jessica Zwaan, a People Ops expert and author of 'Built for People,' shares her journey into the innovative world of PeopleOps as a Product. She reveals the origins of this game-changing framework and discusses how a pivotal blog post inspired her book. Jessica dives into the challenges and achievements of launching MPL Build, a collaboration aimed at enhancing team methodologies. She highlights shifts in perceptions about PeopleOps and explores the growing adoption of agile practices in the U.S., setting the stage for the future of HR.
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Quick takeaways
- Jessica Zwaan discusses the origins of her PeopleOps as a Product philosophy, emphasizing its potential for transforming HR practices.
- The launch of MPL Build aims to expand access to Jessica's innovative methodologies, fostering collaborative learning and development for teams.
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Reflections on Personal and Professional Growth
The hosts share their recent personal achievements and experiences, emphasizing the significance of work-life balance. One host recently returned from vacation and expressed relief at regaining personal space after hosting family and friends in a small apartment. Additionally, he has made substantial progress on a book, having written over 7,000 words, which contributes to his overall sense of fulfillment. This personal growth resonates with listeners who are balancing work commitments while seeking personal achievements.