Conversations With a Wounded Healer

248 - Janina Fisher - Spilling Tea Over TikTok Diagnoses, Evidence-Based Therapies, and the Ever-Evolving Nature of Trauma Therapy

May 1, 2024

Janina Fisher, a licensed clinical psychologist and a leading authority on trauma, shares her insights on today's therapy landscape. She tackles the rise of TikTok diagnoses and critiques capitalism's grip on evidence-based therapies. Janina emphasizes the importance of therapists doing their own healing work and discusses the nuances of trauma origins, especially in childhood. The conversation explores evolving methodologies in trauma therapy, advocating for personalized approaches over standardized ones, all while highlighting the need for continued support among therapists.

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The podcast highlights the need for holistic trauma therapy that addresses both individual experiences and systemic issues like capitalism and white supremacy.

Janina Fisher emphasizes integrating mindfulness and somatic interventions in trauma therapy, reflecting the evolving nature of treatment approaches for trauma survivors.

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The Journey of Healing

The podcast emphasizes the importance of healing both at an individual and a collective level. It discusses how practices in therapy should not only focus on personal experiences but also address systemic issues such as white supremacy, capitalism, and patriarchy. The hosts reflect on their personal and professional journeys as psychotherapists, highlighting the balance between self-healing and facilitating healing in others. They advocate for a holistic approach that recognizes the interconnectedness of personal trauma and larger societal wounds.

Intro

3min

Support and Celebration within the Therapy Community

3min

Manifesting Therapy Dreams and Reality TV Aspirations

2min

Exploring Trauma Therapy and Support for Therapists

2min

Exploring Trauma and Neurodivergence

20min

Evolving Therapies and Their Challenges

20min

Challenges of Healing Within Time Constraints

3min

It’s not every day that I get to chat with a pioneer in the trauma field, so gimme a moment to geek out over Janina Fisher, Ph.D. the esteemed psychotherapist, consultant, trainer, and author. She’s an international expert on the treatment of trauma, best known for her work on integrating mindfulness-based and somatic interventions into trauma treatment and an absolute legend.

Janina dispenses some wisdom during our conversation regarding the ever-evolving study of trauma,TikTok diagnoses, and therapists doing their own work (!). She also spills tea all over capitalism’s outsized devotion to evidence-based therapies. I’m here for all of it!

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Janina Fisher, Ph.D., is a licensed clinical psychologist and international expert on the treatment of trauma. She's the author of Healing the Fragmented Selves of Trauma Survivors, overcoming Self Alienation, transforming the Living Legacy of Trauma, a workbook for survivors and therapists, and the Living Legacy instructional flip chart. She's best known for her work on integrating mindfulness based and somatic inter interventions into trauma treatment.

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