The New Music Business with Ari Herstand

Platinum Selling Producer / Songwriter for Drake, Travis Scott, Halsey, Khalid - Rogét Chahayed

Sep 9, 2020

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I Love Hip Hop and I Love Logic

03:03

Cobalt Publishing

02:39

Don't Pay the Tax on Your Way Up, Just Keep That in Mind

02:51

Introduction

2min

How to Make It in the New Music Business, Third Edition

4min

I Love Hip Hop and I Love Logic

3min

How Do You Meet a Drummer?

4min

What's Level Recordings?

3min

You Can't Get Real, It's Kind of Like a Buyout

4min

Don't Pay the Tax on Your Way Up, Just Keep That in Mind

3min

The Difference Between Songwriter and Producer

4min

The Four Elements of a Producer Agreement

2min

10.

ATA - Is There a Point System for Indie Artists?

2min

11.

Is It More Common for Artists to Get No Producer Fees?

5min

12.

The MLC, the Mechanical Licensing Collective

4min

13.

Cobalt Publishing

3min

14.

How Do You Get in With Artists?

4min

15.

How to Make Money With a Publishing Deal

5min

16.

How Can You Get a Foot in the Door?

5min

17.

What Are Some Points That We Should Include in a Pitch to a Producer Manager?

4min

18.

Do You Want to Collaborate With Producers?

2min

19.

How to Make It in the New Music Business?

4min

20.

How to Make It in the New Music Business, Third Edition

2min

Today's episode was a live podcast episode for Ari's Take Academy students with guests Rogét Chahayed and his manager Greg Katz. Rogét is a Grammy-nominated producer and songwriter whose songs have sold over 30 million copies. He's worked with some of the biggest names in the business, including Halsey, Travis Scott, Drake, Miguel, G-Eazy, Ke$ha, Calvin Harris, Carly Rae Jepsen, and more.

We got into both the production and business sides. We discussed producer points, splits, songwriter credits, publishing, and how to get a publishing deal. Rogét also gives great advice to aspiring songwriters and producers on how to get started.

This podcast was live for Ari's Take Academy students. At the end of the conversation, they were able to ask Rogét and Greg questions.

Quick links:

2:45 - How Rogét went from studying classical music to working with Dr Dre

8:04 - About Rogét's first production

11:00 - How Greg started managing Rogét

13:45 - Being under credited and what that was like

16:35 - Advice to artists and producers on how to protect themselves from being under credited and screwed

21:25 - What's the difference between a songwriter and producer?

24:04 - When do you discuss splits?

27:50 - Breaking down the producer point system

30:08 - Is it more common to get an upfront producer fee or a backend royalty at Rogét's level?

35:20 - Breaking down Rogét's publishing deal with Kobalt