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Jan 22, 2025 • 1h 5min

He Wrote/Produced 10 #1 Hit Songs: Stargate's Tor Hermansen on How To Do It

Tor Hermansen, one half of the hit-making duo Stargate, shares his journey from crafting chart-toppers for stars like Beyoncé and Rihanna to founding the Los Angeles Academy for Artists and Music Producers. He delves into the evolution of the music industry, emphasizing the role of collaboration and social media in songwriting. Tor provides insights on the creative process, from demoing to refining tracks, while also discussing the importance of nurturing artistic talent and adapting to new trends in music production.
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Jan 15, 2025 • 1h 14min

How YouTube Works for Music

George Karalexis and Donna Budica, co-founders of TEN2 Media, share their expertise in maximizing YouTube's impact on the music industry. They discuss YouTube's role as the top music discovery platform and how artists can leverage it for monetization and fan engagement. The duo dives into key strategies for navigating content creation, understanding analytics, and utilizing features like Shorts and live streaming. They also highlight the importance of partnerships and transparent revenue management for emerging artists looking to thrive in the ever-evolving digital landscape.
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Jan 8, 2025 • 1h 22min

Cody Fry on Leaving a Major Record Label and Finding His Niche Fronting Orchestras

Cody Fry, a multi-instrumentalist and Grammy-nominated orchestral arranger, dives into his journey from major label artist to independent creator. He shares insights on navigating the complexities of record deals and the freedom found in independence. The conversation highlights his viral TikTok breakthrough and the artistry of orchestration, revealing how he blends classical elements with pop appeal. Cody also discusses the unique experience of performing with orchestras and the importance of cultivating a proactive mindset in today's evolving music landscape.
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Dec 18, 2024 • 1h

Can The Music Industry Be a Safe Place?

Katie Tucker, a double-platinum songwriter and studio owner, shares her journey in the music industry and her mission to create safe spaces for artists. She discusses her advocacy through the No Creeps! initiative, aimed at enhancing mental health and inclusivity. Katie emphasizes the importance of respectful practices in production and personal experiences that highlight the need for accountability. With a focus on fostering creativity in a nurturing environment, she offers practical insights on making the music industry a safer place for everyone.
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Dec 11, 2024 • 57min

Selling out Clubs With Very Few Followers? This DIY Band Is Making It Happen.

A DIY band shares their remarkable journey to streaming success despite few followers. They delve into innovative social media strategies, emphasizing the importance of authenticity and fan engagement. Humorous anecdotes about virtual songwriting sessions shed light on their creative process. They reflect on their local roots, the challenges of the pandemic, and the evolving dynamics of the music landscape. The discussion also highlights the tools musicians can use to enhance their online presence and build a dedicated fan community.
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Dec 4, 2024 • 1h 7min

How Shaboozey's "A Bar Song (Tipsy)" Made History and Became the Biggest Song in the World

This week Ari sits down with Heather Vassar, the Senior Vice President at EMPIRE—a fully independent record label, publishing company, and distributor. Heather’s career began at Universal Music Group Nashville, where she developed digital strategy for renowned artists such as George Strait, Luke Bryan, Carrie Underwood, Kacey Musgraves, Chris Stapleton, and Keith Urban. In 2019, Heather joined EMPIRE where she now plays a pivotal role in operations, marketing, and strategy for a diverse roster of artists including Shaboozey, Wyatt Flores, Niko Moon, Sophia Scott, Don Louis, Reyna Roberts, Tenille Arts, and Randy Houser.Heather and Ari discuss the incredible success of Shaboozey’s “A Bar Song (Tipsy)” which has been number one on the Billboard Hot 100 charts for 19 weeks straight—the longest any song has held that position. Heather reveals how this hit (released on an indie label) became the biggest song in the world and how they have sustained its momentum. She shares the entire journey from signing Shaboozey, to putting out his initial singles, releasing his album, collaborating with Beyonce, all the way to his massive global success today. Thanks to her extensive experience at both major and independent labels, Heather has sharp insights to share about deal structures, ownership models, artist development, and how the industry has shifted (in the majors and the indies) over the last five years, all of which you’ll hear about in this episode.https://www.instagram.com/hvassar/00:00 The Hustle Behind Success02:49 Empire Records: A New Era in Music06:07 Shaboozey’s Journey to Stardom09:12 Navigating the Independent Label Landscape12:01 The Creative Process: From Songwriting to Release14:50 Breaking Through: The Success of “A Bar Song (Tipsy)”18:07 The Role of Radio in Today's Music Industry20:49 Building a Fanbase: The Digital Approach24:02 The Importance of Flexibility in Music Releases33:56 Navigating Legalities in Music Production39:08 Strategic Album Rollout and Market Timing45:51 Building a Global Music Infrastructure50:02 Maintaining Momentum After a Hit Release55:04 Balancing Art and Market Trends01:00:10 Educating Artists in the Digital AgeEdited and mixed by Ari DavidsMusic by Brassroots DistrictProduced by the team at Ari’s TakeOrder the THIRD EDITION of How to Make It in the New Music Business: https://book.aristake.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Nov 27, 2024 • 1h 5min

An Iranian Refugee Became a Hit Producer and Now Finds Humanity with Global Collabs

This week Ari sits down with AFSHEEN, an electronic artist, producer, songwriter, and DJ. Initially, AFSHEEN became well-known for producing music by Madonna, Janet Jackson, Selena Gomez, Chris Brown, Sia and other big-name artists. AFSHEEN was nominated for a Latin Grammy for his work on Natalia Jiménez's album Creo en Mi. He wrote "All We Have Is Love" with Sabrina Carpenter, wrote and produced "Sunny Days" with Armin van Buuren and Toby Gad, and has worked with other notable artists like Rebecca Ferguson and Lindsay Stirling. A song AFSHEEN wrote for Korean artist Taeyeon reached number one on the K-Pop Billboard charts for two consecutive weeks. AFSHEEN has had an incredibly successful career as a songwriter/producer, but he also recently released a new album, SMALL WORLD, under his namesake solo project. An Iranian refugee himself, AFSHEEN worked with artists from all over the world to bring this record to life. SMALL WORLD features prominent artists from Indian, Romania, Jamaica, Japan, Amsterdam, and beyond. AFSHEEN talks with Ari about transitioning from being the go-to producer/songwriter for superstars into being a self-released artist who releases his own music through DistroKid. AFSHEEN is also starting his own label, SOUNDISH. He shares insights about the process of building a label and his vision for the label’s future.https://www.instagram.com/afsheenmusic/00:00 Exploring Global Sounds: AFSHEEN’s Journey09:55 The Power of Collaboration: Building a Diverse Album20:07 Cultural Roots and Personal Stories: Music as a Reflection30:03 The Indie Artist Journey: From Producer to Self-Released32:00 Vision for the SOUNDISH label: A New Era in Music Production38:24 Transitioning from Behind the Scenes to Artist42:46 Expanding Global Reach through Collaboration51:22 Breaking into the Music Industry01:02:08 Defining Success in the New Music BusinessEdited and mixed by Ari DavidsMusic by Brassroots DistrictProduced by the team at Ari’s TakeOrder the THIRD EDITION of How to Make It in the New Music Business: https://book.aristake.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Nov 6, 2024 • 1h 12min

Noga Erez on her Major Label Debut Album and Dealing With Hate

This week Ari sits down with alt-pop singer, rapper & multi-hyphenate, Noga Erez. Her breakout album Off The Radar earned worldwide acclaim and her sophomore project KIDS brought even greater success. She recently released a new record THE VANDALIST, which has further cemented her place as a one-of-a-kind artist of the modern era. Noga Erez has garnered fans across the world, including superstars like Billie Eilish, Missy Elliott (who Noga collaborated with on her 2022 single “Nails”), Gal Gadot, and Finneas. She has sold out the Bowery Ballroom in NY, El Rey Theatre in LA, and Menora Arena in Tel Aviv on her headlining tours. Erez has performed at Bonnaroo, Primavera Sound, Austin City Limits, Lollapalooza, and has been featured on Jimmy Kimmel Live! as well as The Kelly Clarkson Show.In this episode, Ari and Noga talk about the creation process and the craft of songwriting. They also delve into themes from her latest record, including: how social media has affected society and the ways releasing music has changed in recent years. THE VANDALIST is Noga’s first record on a major label, so she shares details of what that experience has been like for her. Noga also talks about what it means to be an Israeli artist in a larger global context, and how that has impacted her life and work.https://www.nogaerez.com/00:00 The Meaning of Music in Life01:05 Introducing Noga Erez and Her New Album02:42 Navigating the Music Industry Chaos03:36 Being an Israeli Artist in Today's World04:36 The Creation Process of 'THE VANDLIST'06:31 Collaborating with Real Musicians11:35 Exploring Themes of PC Culture in Music16:55 The Impact of Social Media on Society24:41 The Sad Generation and Its Challenges30:00 The Role of Music in Finding Purpose34:43 Songwriting Process and Collaboration37:26 The Creative Process Behind Songwriting42:07 Navigating Major Label Dynamics46:40 The Impact of Social Media on Artists55:18 The Challenges of Being an Israeli Artist01:10:48 Defining Success in the New Music BusinessEdited and mixed by Ari DavidsMusic by Brassroots DistrictProduced by the team at Ari’s TakeOrder the THIRD EDITION of How to Make It in the New Music Business: https://book.aristake.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Oct 30, 2024 • 1h 20min

How Partisan Records Markets Artists

Zena White, Chief Operating Officer at Partisan Records, brings her wealth of experience to the discussion. She shares insights on how they balance traditional marketing with modern strategies, including the costs behind getting artists on platforms like Late Night shows. Zena dives into the success story of Cigarettes After Sex, showcasing the evolution of album sales from physical copies to streaming. She also emphasizes the importance of long-term investments in artists’ careers beyond immediate profits, highlighting the role of grassroots marketing and genuine fan engagement.
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Oct 23, 2024 • 58min

Billboard Exec on Linkin Park and the state of Music Journalism

This week, Ari is joined by Jason Lipshutz, the Executive Director of Music at Billboard. Jason has written about music for over a decade and has penned cover stories on Taylor Swift, U2, Blink-182, Lorde, Bon Iver, Mumford & Sons, among many others. He was formerly a deputy editor at Fuse Media and has contributed to VIBE, The Hollywood Reporter, Spinner, and Popjustice. Jason recently released a book about Linkin Park called It Starts With One.In this illuminating interview, Jason shares his perspective on the state of music journalism, how he approaches conducting interviews, who decides what gets reviewed and who goes on the cover at major music publications. Ari and Jason also trade stories about their experiences with publicists and managers trying to squash stories to protect client images. If you're interested in the inner workings of the music journalism industry, this episode is for you!Check out Jason’s new audiobook: https://aristake.io/ul1wx7 00:00 The Balance of Music Journalism03:10 Writing a Book vs. Cover Stories05:56 The Evolution of Linkin Park13:02 The Art of Interviewing Artists18:09 The Changing Landscape of Music Journalism29:19 Navigating the Pressures of Music Journalism36:05 The Editorial Process at Billboard41:44 Balancing Traffic and Storytelling45:04 Personal Fandom in Journalism48:14 Writing a Book on Linkin Park56:33 Championing Creativity in the Music IndustryEdited and mixed by Ari DavidsMusic by Brassroots DistrictProduced by the team at Ari’s TakeOrder the THIRD EDITION of How to Make It in the New Music Business: https://book.aristake.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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