
Being Well with Forrest Hanson and Dr. Rick Hanson Against Nonchalance: How to Embrace Caring in 2026
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Dec 29, 2025 Dr. Rick Hanson, a clinical psychologist and author focused on the neuroscience of well-being, joins Forrest to unpack the trend of nonchalance. They explore why caring is essential for a meaningful life while discussing obstacles like protective defeatism and cool indifference. Rick highlights the importance of intrinsic motivation and how mindful caring can coexist with emotional balance. Ultimately, they advocate for taking risks in nurturing relationships and finding joy in the struggle, encouraging listeners to embrace genuine caring.
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Nonchalance Undermines Meaning
- Nonchalance is culturally trendy but undermines living a meaningful life.
- Caring is a necessary condition for most meaningful and enjoyable outcomes.
Care And Equanimity Can Coexist
- Equanimity and caring can coexist as a sweet spot in life.
- You can be vulnerably passionate while resting in an underlying emotional balance.
Four Barriers To Healthy Caring
- Caring brings risks that commonly block people from investing.
- Four obstacles are cool nonchalance, painful exposure, low motivation, and protective defeatism.

