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Hello Monday with Jessi Hempel

Rethinking DEI with Michèle Lamont

Oct 23, 2023
In this episode, Jessi Hempel speaks with Michèle Lamont, a professor of sociology and African American studies at Harvard University. They discuss the importance of recognition in diversity, equity, and inclusion initiatives, the burden on people of color to educate others about diversity, recent Supreme Court decisions impacting affirmative action and trans rights, local actions in response to climate change, and the relevance of women writers throughout history.
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Quick takeaways

  • For effective diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) programs, recognition and creating a culture of belonging are more impactful than forced diversity training.
  • The involvement of younger generations, such as Gen Z and Millennials, is a positive force for change in creating a more inclusive society and workplace.

Deep dives

Rethinking DEI with a Focus on Recognition

Dr. Michelle Lamont, a professor of sociology and African American studies at Harvard University, argues that the current approach to diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) programs is ineffective. She highlights research that shows forced diversity training often leads to resentment and shame. Instead, Lamont emphasizes the importance of recognition, creating a culture of belonging, and fostering open conversations about feeling ignored or invisible. Lamont suggests the need for mentors who are trained to have respectful conversations and ensure a climate of belonging. She also discusses the burden on underrepresented groups to educate others and advocates for a more collective approach to DEI that humanizes employees and creates better working conditions.

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