15. Not for Outside Opinions

For every ounce of passion and wisdom in this episode, there is an equal and opposite moment of mundanity and foolishness. It starts out like any other - checking in on how we've been feeling lately and questioning the utility of a perfectly harmless item (in this case, sleep pants). Things take a turn, though, when Caroline poses the question: "What would you do with your life if you made the amount of money you make today, guaranteed, without having to work?" 

This launches us into one of the most personal and introspective conversations we've had on the podcast yet, as we each open up about our feelings on having kids. Hint: they're not the same, and they likely aren't the same as yours either. We both share how we've come to these realizations about ourselves, and explore the complexities of being completely clear on a topic like this given the weight of timelines and outside opinions. Caroline runs to Jess's rescue as she explains why she sometimes doubts herself on this issue, and it's just goddamn beautiful. 

For an episode with such an important conversation at the crux of it, we then move on like it never happened, describing our most memorable drug experiences, offering a hack for sweaty feet, and revisiting Google Search History Shame for old time's sake.

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Intro Music: “Doja Dance” by PALA

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