
Not For Everyone
Not for Everyone is a podcast hosted by a hater (Caroline Winkler) and a lover (Jess DeBakey). We're just two sweet kooks getting carried away being ourselves, waxing poetic on every topic we care too much about. Come for the humor, stay for the honesty. We know we’re not for everyone, but we bet we are for you.
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Latest episodes

Apr 10, 2025 • 1h 26min
117. Am I the Hater? | Annoying Children, Demanding In-Laws, and Quiet Resentment
This show is sponsored by BetterHelp. Visit betterhelp.com/notforeveryone today to get 10% off your first month.Control Body Odor ANYWHERE with @lumedeodorant and get 15% off with promo code NOTFOREVERYONE at Lumedeodorant.com! #lumepod__Ever wondered if you’re in the wrong? Jess and Caroline are talking through listener submissions for a new ~segment~ called “Am I the Hater?” to get to the root of each problem. They discuss asking your partner to give you gifts, wishing your friends hadn’t brought their kids to the party, and sharing your birthday with your mother-in-law. Plus, they do some rapid-fire takes on a few submissions, like daddy-daughter dates, sidewalk etiquette, talking only about kids, girls-only events, second baby showers, and friends who have annoying friends. Can the phrase “no judgement” ever be fully true? Let’s find out.This episode was produced by our prince, Abi Newhouse (@abinewhouse). __Share with a friend!Follow, rate, and review on your favorite podcasting app!Subscribe on YOUTUBE for full episode video: youtube.com/@Not4EveryonePodPlus follow us on INSTAGRAM for more:@not4everyonepod@thegoodsitter@jzdebakeyAnd don't forget about our apparel:nfepodapparel.com__Intro Music: “Doja Dance” by PALA__DISCLAIMER: All opinions are our own. We are not therapists or health professionals, or professional of any kind, really. Please see your own professional or counselor for professional support. Do your research and be safe!

Apr 3, 2025 • 1h 14min
116. Not for Rage Bait + The Real Reason Your Friends Never Take Your Advice
Get up to 10 FREE meals at https://hellofresh.com/NOTFOREVERYONE10FM__Hello babies! Have you ever flirted to get something you want? Jess starts the episode off talking about her trip to NYC and a flirting method she used to get her boyfriend on the flight back. This leads to a deeper conversation about seeing your partner flirt with someone else, how the cliches of “finding love” might be true, and advice for friends that actually works.Plus, Jess and Caroline dive into different ideas about rage bait, food content on Instagram, Black Twitter, and what the young kids are up to. How do we deal with the internet as a part of our daily lives? It’s an eternal question, and one J and C are ready to tackle. Also, if you’re tracking how often J has been sick…we don’t want to know the result. Hugs!This episode was produced by our prince, Abi Newhouse (@abinewhouse). __Share with a friend!Follow, rate, and review on your favorite podcasting app!Subscribe on YOUTUBE for full episode video: youtube.com/@Not4EveryonePodPlus follow us on INSTAGRAM for more:@not4everyonepod@thegoodsitter@jzdebakeyAnd don't forget about our apparel:nfepodapparel.com__Intro Music: “Doja Dance” by PALA__DISCLAIMER: All opinions are our own. We are not therapists or health professionals, or professional of any kind, really. Please see your own professional or counselor for professional support. Do your research and be safe!

Mar 27, 2025 • 1h 33min
115. Not for Bodily Horrors + How to Get More From Your Relationships
This conversation kicks off with hilarious bathroom horror stories, from awkward doctor's visits to ancient Roman bathroom practices. Expect laugh-out-loud anecdotes about public restroom mishaps and awkward encounters. The hosts dive into mastering conversation skills, offering tips for meaningful connections even in brief interactions. They humorously critique avocado toast preparation and share quirky grocery habits, all while navigating the complexities of relationships and self-sabotage. It's an entertaining mix of the absurdity of life and the importance of connection.

Mar 20, 2025 • 1h 24min
114. Not for Therapy Speak + Behind the Scenes of a Hater Engagement (!!!)
This show is sponsored by BetterHelp. Visit https://www.betterhelp.com/notforeveryone today to get 10% off your first month.Stop putting off those doctors appointments and go to https://www.zocdoc.com/notforeveryone to find and instantly book a top-rated doctor today. __Your hater and lover are back together again! After debriefing on the past two week’s episodes featuring friends, Caroline and Jess shift into how their families would fare in the apocalypse, give an update on their thoughts on knitting, talk Caroline’s approach to marketing on YouTube, and dive into Caroline’s recent engagement (!!!).Plus, they get deep on how being annoyed is the price you pay for community and how boundaries can actually foster a relationship. Weaponized therapy speak, however, is NOT the way to maintain relationships, and an example from Love is Blind solidifies that idea. A little catchup on White Lotus and Severance rounds out the episode of a podcast that, despite some of the more recent episodes, is not a podcast about pop culture. Happy to be back together again, kooks.__This episode was produced by our prince, Abi Newhouse (@abinewhouse). __Share with a friend!Follow, rate, and review on your favorite podcasting app!Subscribe on YOUTUBE for full episode video: youtube.com/@Not4EveryonePodPlus follow us on INSTAGRAM for more:@not4everyonepod@thegoodsitter@jzdebakeyAnd don't forget about our apparel:nfepodapparel.com__Intro Music: “Doja Dance” by PALA__DISCLAIMER: All opinions are our own. We are not therapists or health professionals, or professional of any kind, really. Please see your own professional or counselor for professional support. Do your research and be safe!

Mar 13, 2025 • 1h 33min
113. Love Letter: How to Forgive and Forget in Friendship + Keeping Dating FUN in Your 30s | ft. My BFF Ekaette Obot
Check out the Fits Everybody Collection at https://www.skims.com/notforeveryone #skimspartnerStart with 50% off your first box with code notforeveryone50 at https://get.everyplate.com/podcast. EveryPlate offer valid with auto-renewing subscription. __Jess has told us the greatest stories about her best friend Kae, and now finally, Kae joins for a Love Letter episode! The two discuss maintaining their friendship over a 15-year period, navigating friendship struggles, and giggle a lot about their many experiences along the way.They also dive into dating in your 30s, and how to enjoy being single along the way. Kae talks a bit about her career in law, tells a story that justifies her fear of birds, and answers a few hot takes that take us, of course, into the world of reality television. Kisses! Stay til the end for an a cappella surprise!Support Kae at https://life-span.org/ or @lifespan_il on IG.__This episode was produced by our prince, Abi Newhouse (@abinewhouse). __Share with a friend!Follow, rate, and review on your favorite podcasting app!Subscribe on YOUTUBE for full episode video:youtube.com/@Not4EveryonePodPlus follow us on INSTAGRAM for more:@not4everyonepod@thegoodsitter@jzdebakeyAnd don't forget about our apparel:nfepodapparel.com__Intro Music: “Doja Dance” by PALA__DISCLAIMER: All opinions are our own. We are not therapists or health professionals, or professional of any kind, really. Please see your own professional or counselor for professional support. Do your research and be safe!

Mar 6, 2025 • 1h 38min
112. Hater Hour: Overcoming Imposter Syndrome, Leaving Mormonism, and Making Adult Friendships | ft. Prince Abi Our Editor!
It’s about time we had another Hater Hour…and in this episode, Caroline is joined by Not For Everyone Editor Prince Abi! They’ve got lots to say about listener submissions, including discussions about freelancing, working together while maintaining their friendship, building a life post-religion, making meaningful adult friend groups, and navigating romantic partnership dynamics.Plus, they read their first DMs to each other, answer a few hot takes, reminisce on a shared traumatic experience, giggle a lot, and compliment each other profusely. Will Abi finally admit she loves Caroline? You’ll just have to see. You can find Abi at the following:Post-Mormon/fashion blog: abinewhouse.substack.comIG: @abinewhousePodcast she created: We're HereThis episode was produced by our prince, Abi Newhouse (@abinewhouse). __Share with a friend!Follow, rate, and review on your favorite podcasting app!Subscribe on YOUTUBE for full episode video:youtube.com/@Not4EveryonePodPlus follow us on INSTAGRAM for more:@not4everyonepod@thegoodsitter@jzdebakeyAnd don't forget about our apparel:nfepodapparel.com__Intro Music: “Doja Dance” by PALA__DISCLAIMER: All opinions are our own. We are not therapists or health professionals, or professional of any kind, really. Please see your own professional or counselor for professional support. Do your research and be safe!

Feb 27, 2025 • 1h 23min
111. Not For Yapping + Navigating Core Differences with Your Partner
This show is sponsored by BetterHelp. Visit https://www.betterhelp.com/notforeveryone today to get 10% off your first month.__It’s time for a new segment! Introducing Am I The Hater, a take on Reddit’s famous Am I The Asshole threads, where listeners write in about moments where they can’t tell if they’re in the wrong. Jess and Caroline talk through a submitter’s conundrum of talking too much when a partner is not in the space to hear it. They dive deep into believing your partner loves your quirks, learning to express your needs, and the times they almost broke up with their own partners. Plus, have you ever created a soap opera out of your own life? Like, that hot guy on the plane was for sure looking at you, right? C discusses a scenario where someone is for sure jealous of her relationship, J brings up the excuses parents make for their babies, and they finally found a solution to their sleep troubles. Let’s flirt, babies!This episode was produced by our prince, Abi Newhouse (@abinewhouse). __Share with a friend!Follow, rate, and review on your favorite podcasting app!Subscribe on YOUTUBE for full episode video:youtube.com/@Not4EveryonePodPlus follow us on INSTAGRAM for more:@not4everyonepod@thegoodsitter@jzdebakeyAnd don't forget about our apparel:nfepodapparel.com__Intro Music: “Doja Dance” by PALA__DISCLAIMER: All opinions are our own. We are not therapists or health professionals, or professional of any kind, really. Please see your own professional or counselor for professional support. Do your research and be safe!

Feb 20, 2025 • 1h 41min
110. Ask A Therapist: Attachment Styles, Manifestation, and Friend Drama | Featuring Carter Umhau
Go to Zocdoc.com/NOTFOREVERYONE to find and instantly book a top-rated doctor today. __Carter's Events, Workshops, and 1-on-1s:- ARTIST'S WAY CREATIVITY COURSE: https://www.carterumhau.com/artists-way-course-page/ - 1-on-1 APPOINTMENTS: https://www.carterumhau.com/appointments-2- EVENTS: https://www.carterumhau.com/events- CONTACT: https://www.carterumhau.com/ - IG: @carterfleet.***Boy, do we have a treat for you! Jess and Caroline sit down with therapist, artist, and writer Carter Umhau to discuss all your burning questions. They tackle manifestation vs. taking action, witnessing a friend get into a tricky dating situation, fixing your attachment style, getting in touch with your body, and what it means if you’re not progressing in therapy.Plus, they get into a few kooky things as well: Carter exposes her Google Search History, and the three discuss which celebrities have the best butts. Get therapized babies! (You know, in actual therapy sessions…because this isn’t *technically* therapy. Okay, enjoy!) Find Carter Umhau at www.carterumhau.com and on IG @carterfleet. To join her class on transforming your relationship with creativity, visit https://www.carterumhau.com/artists-way-course-page. __This episode was produced by our prince, Abi Newhouse (@abinewhouse). __Share with a friend!Follow, rate, and review on your favorite podcasting app!Subscribe on YOUTUBE for full episode video: youtube.com/@Not4EveryonePodPlus follow us on INSTAGRAM for more:@not4everyonepod@thegoodsitter@jzdebakeyAnd don't forget about our apparel:nfepodapparel.com__Intro Music: “Doja Dance” by PALA__DISCLAIMER: All opinions are our own. We are not therapists or health professionals, or professional of any kind, really. Please see your own professional or counselor for professional support. Do your research and be safe!

Feb 13, 2025 • 1h 24min
109. Not for Thanking Beyoncé + The Misogynistic Trap of Relatability
Get up to 10 FREE meals and a free high protein item for life athttps://hellofresh.com/notforeveryone10fm.This show is sponsored by Skims. Check them out athttps://www.skims.com/notforeveryone #skimspartner__Look, the Grammys came and went, but don’t think for one minute Jess and Caroline are going to pass up a chance to talk about Beyoncé. C brings up a Beyoncé conspiracy theory, J brings her defense to the table, C continues to litigate, J pushes back, and it all ends up with the two agreeing that Hollywood is just kind of gross. The pair round out the episode with a follow-up on the Blake Lively talk, a rant about “relatability” and “authenticity” when it comes to women we’re determined to hate, a complaint about buying new dresses for every wedding, and contemplation about finding your personal style. Plus, STOP2END? Please don’t. We’d like to keep spamming you.This episode was produced by our prince, Abi Newhouse (@abinewhouse). __Share with a friend!Follow, rate, and review on your favorite podcasting app!Subscribe on YOUTUBE for full episode video:youtube.com/@Not4EveryonePodPlus follow us on INSTAGRAM for more:@not4everyonepod@thegoodsitter@jzdebakeyAnd don't forget about our apparel:nfepodapparel.com__Intro Music: “Doja Dance” by PALA__DISCLAIMER: All opinions are our own. We are not therapists or health professionals, or professional of any kind, really. Please see your own professional or counselor for professional support. Do your research and be safe!

Feb 6, 2025 • 1h 6min
108. Not for Wicked + Why Rage Quitting Isn’t the Answer
This show is sponsored by BetterHelp. Visit https://www.betterhelp.com/notforeveryone today to get 10% off your first month.
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Ever fantasized about rage quitting? You’re not alone. Jess and Caroline are discussing all things work this week, from the benefits of corporate jobs to balancing work with other projects to the spectrum of people’s working styles. Are you more of a “I take naps throughout the workday” or a “I’ll create work when there’s nothing to do”? Either way, J and C are going to tear you a new one.
Plus, they talk about all the Wicked hype, and C gives her perspective as a former actress. There’s musical acting and then there’s movie acting, and let’s just say Wicked might not have nailed either. They also follow-up on approaching alone time from last week’s episode, and break down a listener’s comment on their “ignorant opinions.” It’s a fun one, kooks.
This episode was produced by our prince, Abi Newhouse (@abinewhouse).
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DISCLAIMER: All opinions are our own. We are not therapists or health professionals, or professional of any kind, really. Please see your own professional or counselor for professional support. Do your research and be safe!
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