Donald G. McNeil Jr., author of The Wisdom of Plagues, joins the podcast to discuss his book and the zoonotic origin of Covid. They also touch on the accuracy of Anthony Fauci's answers about gain-of-function research, public health cowardice, the environmental impact of missile strikes on Houthi targets in Yemen, and the debate surrounding Israel's actions in Gaza and the concept of genocide.
Israel emphasizes that its actions aim to save civilian lives, not commit genocide.
Extreme statements about Israel undermine the credibility of the legal process and hinder effective collective action in future epidemics.
Deep dives
Israel Defends Its Right to Self-defense Against Hamas Attacks
Israel's legal advisor, Tal Becker, argues that Israel is seeking to protect its people against Hamas attacks, not to destroy a people. He emphasizes that the intent to commit genocide is totally lacking and that Israel's actions aim to save civilian lives.
The Importance of Words in the Legal Process
Israel argues that words should still matter in a court of law and that the use of extreme terms, such as genocide, without solid evidence undermines the credibility and integrity of the legal process.
Addressing Allegations of Genocidal Rhetoric
Israeli lawyers argue that extreme statements made by some individuals do not reflect the overall intent or actions of the Israeli government. They highlight the efforts made to mitigate harm to civilians, such as issuing warnings and providing information for evacuation.
Challenges of International Perception and Trust
Israel expresses concern about the world's negative perception and bias against Israel. They argue that trust in leadership plays a crucial role in responding intelligently to crises, and the polarization and lack of trust between different sides hinder effective collective action in future epidemics.
The Houthis are monstrous militants, which would be reason enough to dispatch them via military might. But also, think of the carbon savings! Plus, Israel defends itself from genocide charges. And we're joined once more by Donald G. McNeil Jr. to discuss his new book The Wisdom of Plagues, a zoonotic origin of Covid, if Anthony Fauci answers about gain-of-function research were accurate, and public health cowardice in the face of m(onkey) pox.