
The Gist
For thirty minutes each day, Pesca challenges himself and his audience, in a responsibly provocative style, and gets beyond the rigidity and dogma. The Gist is surprising, reasonable, and willing to critique the left, the right, either party, or any idea.
Latest episodes

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Apr 14, 2025 • 41min
Trump’s Trade Tactics: Betwixt Chaos and Coherence
Barry Nalebuff, a Yale professor and negotiation expert, dissects Trump’s unpredictable trade tactics. He analyzes the recent rollback of tariffs on Chinese electronics, questioning how these moves align with Trump's goals. The discussion delves into Trump’s negotiation style, highlighting the use of extreme positions for credibility. Nalebuff also tackles the uproar over chlorinated chicken in UK-U.S. trade talks, exploring the clash between scientific consensus and public perception of food safety.

Apr 12, 2025 • 30min
Today’s Show is About a Different Show That is Not About Tapirs
Colin McEnroe, host of The Colin McEnroe Show, joins for a playful dive into the absurd concept of a podcast that avoids discussing tapirs entirely. The banter includes whimsical debates about creating content without a specific topic, echoing the essence of Seinfeld. They explore the challenge of acknowledging the tapir while sidestepping it. Transitioning to political rants, they critique a recent press conference on tariffs, using clever metaphors and insights into trade strategies, all wrapped in delightful absurdity.

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Apr 11, 2025 • 49min
The Ongoing Black Mark of the Red Scare
Clay Risen, an author and historian, dives into the chilling era of McCarthyism and its modern-day echoes. He reveals how political suspicion transformed civil liberties into collateral damage and scrutinizes the absurdities of loyalty oaths and fear-driven tactics. Risen also unpacks the emotional toll on those coerced into naming names, like a targeted math teacher. He critically examines historical parallels to today’s political landscape, urging listeners to reflect on the fragility of civil rights amidst governmental pressures.

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Apr 10, 2025 • 35min
The Bond Market Doesn’t Do Ayahuasca
John McWhorter, a New York Times columnist and author of "Pronoun Trouble," joins to unravel the intricacies of language. He highlights the charm of borrowed Yiddish verbs and the aesthetic significance of the letter 'X' across cultures. The conversation flows into the natural rhythms of everyday speech, revealing how informal language serves as a powerful expression tool. Additionally, McWhorter touches on how language shapes political perceptions, especially regarding trans athletes, revealing the performative nature of contemporary discussions.

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Apr 9, 2025 • 38min
Then They Came For They
John McWhorter, a distinguished linguist and New York Times columnist, discusses his book, Pronoun Trouble. He humorously explores the evolution and significance of pronouns, especially in the context of gender identity and societal changes. The conversation also touches upon President Trump's tariffs, revealing a mix of economic insight and quirky metaphors, like comparing economic instinct to Indy car strategy. McWhorter critiques cultural labels and the intersection of language and politics, creating a captivating blend of humor and depth.

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Apr 8, 2025 • 50min
The Brand Is the Business: Devon Archer on Biden, Burisma, and Being the Fall Guy
Devon Archer, Hunter Biden’s former business partner recently pardoned by Donald Trump, dives into the intricacies of Ukrainian gas deals and what he terms the “Biden brand.” He recounts secretive dinners in Paris and discusses how access was sold while scrutinizing the web of political connections. Archer also sheds light on the infamous '10% for the big guy' remark, revealing it as more than just a phrase, and reflects on personal regrets tied to business choices and the impact of addiction.

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Apr 7, 2025 • 39min
Devon Archer, Recently Pardoned, Reflects
Devon Archer, former business partner of Hunter Biden and House Oversight witness, shares his insights following his recent pardon. He delves into his experiences with Burisma and the contentious fallout with the Biden family. Archer reflects on how his legal saga turned into a political storm and shares personal anecdotes that illustrate the intersections of business and politics. The conversation also touches on significant moments in his past, revealing how personal challenges impact professional landscapes.

Apr 5, 2025 • 60min
Mike on Uncertain Things and Vanderpump Robs
Join Adam James Levin, known for his dark and mysterious persona, Rob from Vanderpump Robs, and Michelle Pesca, CBSO of Peach Fish Productions, as they dive into the worlds of philosophy and reality TV. They humorously contrast the nihilism of Uncertain Things with the chaotic romances in Vanderpump Rules. The hosts tackle the evolving media landscape and battle misinformation, while also dissecting friendships and tensions portrayed on reality television. Expect witty banter, cultural insights, and a playful look at behind-the-scenes show dynamics!

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Apr 4, 2025 • 59min
Funny You Should Mention Season 2 - Alex Edelman
Award-winning comedian Alex Edelman, known for his Broadway show "Just For Us," dives deep into the nuances of stand-up comedy. He shares tales of crafting humor in intimate venues like the Comedy Cellar, revealing the challenges of unresponsive audiences. The discussion spans the evolution of comedy, balancing serious themes with humor, and the delicate art of addressing contemporary issues like anti-Semitism. Edelman also reflects on the complexities of creating relatable art amidst moral ambiguities, making for a fascinating conversation.

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Apr 3, 2025 • 1h 4min
Not Even Mad: Sarah Isgur and Sarada Peri
Sarah Isgur, a Dispatch editor and political commentator, teams up with Sarada Peri, a former Obama speechwriter, to tackle a range of intriguing topics. They dive into the implications of budget cuts on essential services, sharing both serious insights and lighthearted anecdotes. The duo also examines political rhetoric's impact on citizens, especially in rural areas. With a surprising detour into the legacies of Garfield and Arthur, they mix history with contemporary political discourse, all while maintaining a humorous vibe that’s sure to entertain.
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