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Nationalism is a Delusion: Our Futures Depend on Ever Closer Union

Mar 22, 2019
Radek Sikorski, a seasoned Polish politician and journalist, and Flavia Kleiner, a Swiss activist advocating for direct democracy, engage in a spirited debate on nationalism and European unity. They argue that nationalism is a delusion, emphasizing the need for closer EU integration to tackle contemporary challenges. On the opposing side, journalist Douglas Murray and political scientist Aleksandra Rybińska stress the risks of nationalism, citing its historical impact and the complexities of fostering a unified European identity. This clash of views highlights the intricate balance between nationhood and collective progress.
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ANECDOTE

Berlin Wall

  • Radek Sikorski recounts being in Berlin when the wall fell in 1989.
  • He and his future wife, Anne Applebaum, climbed the wall.
INSIGHT

Patriotism vs. Nationalism

  • Sikorski distinguishes patriotism, loving your country, from nationalism.
  • Nationalism is the belief in your nation's superiority and entitlement.
ANECDOTE

Brexit Experiment

  • Sikorski frames Brexit as an experiment.
  • He believes its success will lead other nations to follow, while failure allows reapplication.
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