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S2E19: “VCs wanted us to build an LLM. We said no” | John Sabino (LivePerson)

Sep 19, 2025
John Sabino, CEO of LivePerson and former Army Ranger, discusses his bold decision to pivot away from creating a traditional LLM towards their innovative Bring Your Own LLM (BYOLLM) strategy. He highlights why 95% of AI pilots fail, attributing this to overlooking essential orchestration and customer journey mapping. John emphasizes a human+AI approach, advocating for strategic augmentation instead of layoffs. His insights on targeting enterprise customers and realigning investor expectations reveal the complexities of leading a tech turnaround.
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INSIGHT

Orchestration Beats Building Your Own LLM

  • LivePerson refocused from building its own LLM to orchestrating customer conversations across channels.
  • The company embraced BYOLLM to give customers choice and leverage 30 years of orchestration expertise.
ADVICE

Automate Low-Value Tasks First

  • Automate high-volume, low-value tasks like billing and shipping inquiries to drive efficiency.
  • Keep humans for complex escalations and use saved resources to create premium services customers will pay for.
ANECDOTE

Joining Under Fire

  • John described joining LivePerson into a financially stressed company with renewal risk and investor pressure.
  • He moved quickly to secure debt deals, buy time, and refocus the product and brand.
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