Radically Human

In conversation with David Cayley on Ivan Illich and the pandemic response

Dec 19, 2023

Toronto-based writer David Cayley discusses philosopher Ivan Illich's critiques of institutions, society, and gender roles. The conversation explores Illich's perspectives on powerlessness, Christianity, spirituality, and societal responses to the pandemic, calling for a reevaluation of societal norms and boundaries.

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Quick takeaways

Ivan Illich advocated for de-schooling society and prioritizing freedom to love over societal norms.

Illich's critique of risk-averse societies and mechanistic worldviews is relevant in today's digital age.

The pandemic response reveals societal divisions, emphasizing the need for civil dialogue and critical analysis.

Deep dives

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Yvonne Illich, a radical thinker, questioned the myth of progress and development, challenging societal norms. With a focus on de-schooling society and critiquing modern institutions, Illich emphasized the freedom to love and surprises as essential aspects of human existence. These ideas led to insights on the shifting societal paradigms and the need for open dialogue and critical analysis.

Intro

3min

Reflections on Ivan Illich's Critiques of Institutions and Society

31min

Exploring Ivan Illich's Perspective on Gender, Society, and Reading Practices

18min

Exploring Powerlessness, Christianity, and Societal Evolution

5min

Ivan Illich's Unique Personality and Journey

8min

Exploring Surprise, Spirituality, and Embodiment in Christianity

3min

Exploring Transhumanism, Pandemic Response, and Societal Divisions

4min

Navigating Discussions on Pandemic Responses and Personal Experiences

4min

I talk to David Cayley about Ivan Illich and where the response to the pandemic comes from.

David Cayley is a Toronto-based Canadian writer and broadcaster, who is known for documenting the philosophies of prominent thinkers of the 20th century - among them, the work of Ivan Illich. Recently, Cayley has been written several powerful works on the Pandemic, including the Prognosis, which was published in Literary Review Canada. He joined me on my podcast to discuss the philosophy of Ivan Illich and how it might be understood in light of recent developments.

Blog post with transcript and links: https://friedavizel.com/2021/08/03/29-of-podcast/