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Justin Anthony and Why Leadership is a Myth

Jan 9, 2024

Justin Anthony, rector of Chingford (UK) parish, joins Martha Tatarnik to challenge the concept of leadership within the church. They explore the lack of clarity surrounding leadership, the impact of Hollywood and American culture on its perception, and the challenges faced by the Church of England. They also discuss dissenting voices, the hope and resilience of Christianity, and their favorite Bible studies on the book of Revelation.

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Quick takeaways

The concept of leadership in the church is ill-defined and problematic, driven by a desire for power and control.

There is a need to shift focus back to Christ and away from a fixation on leadership, embracing collective prayer and a rule of life.

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Leadership as a Myth: Exploring the Obsession with Leadership in the Church

This podcast episode delves into the concept of leadership and its significance in the Church. The speaker questions the use of the term 'leadership' and highlights the lack of a clear and agreed-upon definition. They argue that the fascination with leadership is often fueled by a desire for power and control. The influence of Hollywood's portrayals of mythological heroes and violence is also explored, highlighting its impact on the perception of leadership. The episode emphasizes the need to shift focus back to Christ and away from a fixation on leadership, advocating for a return to collective prayer and adherence to a rule of life. The dangers of reducing the role of the Church to survival and the importance of embracing the true essence of Christianity are also discussed.

Introduction

3min

The Evolution of Christianity and the Challenges of Leadership

9min

Leadership: Challenging the Concept

29min

Leadership, Vision, and Dissent in the Church of England

24min

The Hope and Resilience of Christianity

4min

Favorite Bible studies, upcoming book project, and availability for speaking engagements

2min

Wrapping up with Justin Anthony

2min

In this episode of the Future Christian Podcast, guest host Martha Tartarnic sits down with Justin Anthony, the rector of Chingford (UK) parish, to delve into the nuances of leadership within the church and why our pervasive language around leadership is actually ill-defined and problematic. The conversation aims to invite careful and considered thought about how we talk about ministry in the church and why the language we use has in some important sense failed our faith communities.

Justin Anthony is Rector of Chingford parish, and was until recently the Deputy Director of the Anglican Centre in Rome. He has worked in Alexandria, Virginia (as Dean of Students at a theological college), Canterbury (as Rector of a parish in the city), Oxford (as precentor of Christ Church Cathedral), and Cirencester (as curate and team vicar in the parish). He was born in Singapore, and educated there, in Germany, North Yorkshire, the LSE and Oxford. He has written three books as a sole author and contributed to others on issues of church life, ministry, and culture.

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