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Everything you’ve ever wanted to know about SAFe and the product owner role | Melissa Perri (author, founder of Product Institute)

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Nov 10, 2024
Melissa Perri dives into the evolution of the product owner role, highlighting the distinctions between product owners and product managers. She critiques the Scaled Agile Framework (SAFe), revealing common pitfalls companies face when prioritizing processes over customer needs. The conversation emphasizes the importance of adaptability in Agile environments, especially for startups versus large firms. Perri also shares her journey in product management and the essential skills for transitioning from product owner to product manager.
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INSIGHT

Product Owner Role as Introduction to Product Management

  • The product owner role in Scrum often becomes the first introduction to product management for many companies.
  • This can lead to misconceptions about the role compared to traditional product management.
ANECDOTE

40 Hours on User Stories

  • Melissa Perri encountered a product owner at a bank who spent 40 hours a week writing user stories for a login API.
  • This highlights how SAFe can lead to tactical work without strategic customer interaction.
INSIGHT

Order Taker Product Owners

  • SAFe often leads to product owners becoming order-takers, hindering their strategic growth.
  • This separation of strategy and tactics can create a disconnect between product owners and product managers.
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