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The Michael Shermer Show

What Are We Really Fighting Over? Understanding Outrage Through Moral Psychology

Jan 14, 2025
Kurt Gray, a psychology and neuroscience professor at UNC Chapel Hill, dives into the fascinating world of moral psychology. He challenges the notion that liberals and conservatives have entirely opposing moral frameworks, revealing that everyone's judgments come from feelings of vulnerability. Gray discusses how perceptions of who the 'real' victim is can ignite moral outrage in various contexts. He also explores the evolution of human emotions like guilt and anger and emphasizes the importance of empathy in political discussions to foster understanding.
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  • Kurt Gray challenges the dichotomy between liberal and conservative moral foundations by emphasizing shared feelings of vulnerability as a common base for moral judgments.
  • The role of social media in exacerbating political polarization is evident, as it fosters echo chambers that prioritize outrage, amplifying misunderstandings and emotional responses.

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Understanding Political Polarization

Political polarization has reached unprecedented levels, with ordinary citizens expressing deep antipathy toward opposing viewpoints. Historical data suggest that while ideological divides have always existed, they have intensified in recent years, largely exacerbated by social media. The reduction of interpersonal connections among politicians, previously seen in the camaraderie of legislators outside their work, has led to decreased compromise and increased partisanship. This cultural shift has contributed to a sense of affective polarization, where emotions drive the divide rather than logic or policy differences.

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