In this episode, Angie talks with Biophysical Scientist and author of Crashes, Crises, and Calamities, Dr. Len Fisher. Fisher gives many in-depth examples for how sudden change, or critical transitions, can happen within complex adaptive systems. He unpacks how interconnectedness, unintended consequences, runaway effects, and emergence all influence systemic collapse. Fisher also shares what is needed to effectively govern of complex systems.
