

280 - Guest Co-Host Henry Harteveldt; Guest: Justin Jones, EVP Operations, Southwest Airlines
Mar 26, 2025
In this discussion, travel industry analyst Henry Harteveldt co-hosts with Justin Jones, EVP of Operations at Southwest Airlines. They dive into significant challenges like Heathrow's power failure and the evolving landscape of international travel regulations. Justin shares insights on Southwest's impressive cancellation rate and upcoming changes in baggage handling that could impact customer satisfaction. The episode also highlights crucial issues in pilot training and the ongoing supply chain disruptions facing airlines.
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BBQ Recruitment
- Justin Jones's career at Southwest began unexpectedly.
- He was offered a job by a stranger while eating barbecue.
2022 Christmas Meltdown Root Cause
- Southwest's 2022 Christmas meltdown stemmed from a confluence of factors, not just technology.
- Their low-buffer system, combined with severe weather and communication issues, created a cascade of cancellations.
Post-Meltdown Improvements
- Southwest improved operations after the 2022 meltdown by focusing on ground operations and inter-team collaboration.
- They increased winter staffing, built throughput models, and created disruption pods.