Calley Means, a senior adviser to Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and a critic of the food and pharmaceutical industries, shares his eye-opening journey from politics to health advocacy. He discusses the alarming transformation of American diets toward ultra-processed foods and how this shift correlates with rising healthcare costs. Calley emphasizes the need for systemic change and grassroots movements to prioritize nutrition over medications and critiques current food policies, particularly affecting children. His insights challenge conventional health narratives and inspire hope for a healthier future.
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A High-Octane White House
The White House team is operating at extremely high intensity with late nights and cross-sector leaders collaborating.
Calley Means frames the current administration as a historically consequential, high-octane effort to enact broad change.
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Sickness Is An Economic Incentive
The healthcare system is financially structured to profit from chronic illness rather than prevention.
Means says incentives drive medical culture to prioritize lifelong treatments over root-cause health interventions.
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Postwar Shift To Processed Food And Pills
Ultra-processed food and pharmaceutical incentives co-evolved after WWII, shifting focus away from prevention.
Means argues 95% of health spending now targets chronic condition management, not root causes.
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Calley Means has spent years pulling back the curtain on some of the most powerful industries in America, and what he shared with me was eye-opening.
We talked about his journey from working inside the political machine to becoming a senior adviser to Robert F. Kennedy Jr., and now one of the most outspoken critics of the food, pharmaceutical, and healthcare industries. Calley explained why he believes the health of our country starts with what we eat, and how the system is stacked against ordinary Americans from the time we are kids in school.
He did not sugarcoat the reality. The statistics are dark, the incentives are broken, and the industries making billions off our sickness do not want to change. But Calley also brought hope by sharing why he still believes America can turn this around, what he is fighting for alongside RFK Jr. and Donald Trump, and the changes that could actually make us healthy again.
This was a challenging and fascinating conversation that will make you question what you have been told about health, medicine, and the food on your plate.
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Chapters:
00:01:33 – Life at the White House
00:03:03 – Trump’s Second Term
00:05:50 – The State of Food and Health in America
00:09:51 – MAHA vs. Big Pharma
00:14:52 – How American Food and Health Declined
00:16:53 – NIH’s Questionable Interests and Spending
00:19:13 – Shocking Tactics Used by the Food Industry
00:20:07 – Michelle Obama and School Lunches
00:22:46 – How MAHA is Making an Impact
00:27:05 – RFK Jr. Joins Forces with President Trump
00:30:43 – What is SNAP?
00:38:09 – How the Medical Community Dismisses Patients
00:40:24 – Rebuilding Trust in Doctors and Medicine
00:47:24 – What to Do if Your Doctor Belittles You
00:51:05 – Is It Racist to Say Soda is Bad for You?
00:57:13 – Low Income and Poor Health
01:03:15 – The Means Family’s Health Habits
01:06:52 – The Presidential Fitness Test
01:11:59 – Calley’s Mother and the Reason He Fights
01:15:57 – Powerful Moment: Calley on His Mother’s Final Days
01:23:42 – Cancer by the Numbers
01:30:56 – Closing Thoughts
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