80,000 Hours Podcast

#140 Classic episode – Bear Braumoeller on the case that war isn’t in decline

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Jan 8, 2025
Bear Braumoeller, a noted political science professor, delves into the contentious debate surrounding the decline of war. He argues against the popular notion that warfare is decreasing, citing compelling data and historical analysis. The conversation spans the complexities of modern warfare, the paradox of Enlightenment ideals fueling conflict, and the role of religion in warfare. Braumoeller emphasizes the need for careful interpretation of conflict data and highlights geopolitical tensions, particularly between the US and China, as pressing indicators of potential future conflicts.
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Data Skepticism

  • Arguments for a decline in war lack strong data and rigorous analysis.
  • Existing analyses often lack formal statistical tests, making it hard to separate real trends from random noise.
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Lack of Decline

  • Testing the "decline of war" argument reveals little support for it.
  • There's been no consistent decline in war over the past few centuries, even showing an increase before the Cold War's end.
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International Order Matters

  • Patterns of international order, not human progress, better predict variations in conflict.
  • Variation exists across state groups and international orders, offering a path to more peaceful international relations.
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