The Dr. John Delony Show

Conflict Expert: Simple Frameworks to Make Hard Conversations Easier (With Jefferson Fisher)

Mar 31, 2025

This conversation features Jefferson Fisher, an attorney and conversation expert, who emphasizes that winning arguments shouldn't be the goal. Topics include effective communication strategies for tough discussions in relationships, transforming conflict into connection, and the significance of emotional independence. They also discuss navigating gaslighting and setting boundaries in strained relationships, while highlighting the importance of self-awareness and quality sleep for overall wellness. Listeners are equipped with practical tips for fostering trust and understanding.

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Jefferson Fisher

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Quick takeaways

Starting conversations with clear intentions rather than small talk fosters better understanding and reduces anxiety in sensitive discussions.

Phrasing requests as preferences instead of needs creates a more inviting atmosphere, encouraging open dialogue and vulnerability between parties.

Acknowledging discomfort candidly while addressing intimate topics facilitates a more authentic exchange, preparing both individuals for potentially challenging conversations.

Deep dives

The Importance of Direct Conversations

Starting conversations with small talk often leads to misunderstandings and defensiveness. It is crucial to avoid pleasantries when approaching sensitive topics to ensure both parties know the conversation's direction. Initiating with phrases that invite discussion, such as 'Can we talk about something important?' sets a collaborative tone. This approach helps create an environment where both individuals understand the objective of the conversation, reducing anxiety and allowing for clearer communication.

Intro

2min

Navigating Tough Talks in Relationships

5min

Navigating Gaslighting and Emotional Turmoil

18min

Navigating Emotional Independence and Wellness

5min

Reframing Conflict: From Competition to Connection

18min

Empowerment through Support and the Importance of Quality Sleep

3min

Mastering Meaningful Conversations

14min

Integrating Health for Holistic Well-Being

3min

On today’s episode, John Delony sits down with attorney and conversation expert Jefferson Fisher to discuss why winning arguments should not be your end goal.

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