This week, Simi Botic—author, founder of Unmeasured, and my best friend—joins me to talk about PIVOT, a new zine of essays I compiled. After breaking my leg this summer, being stuck inside gave me time to put this together. Simi was the first person I sent it to, partly because she's a character in it and wrote one of the essays with me, and because she's always so gentle and supportive. I don't know how I got so lucky to have her as a friend but I did.

In this, we talked about seeing each other through different phases. And about the uncomfortable feelings that come from revisiting our old work but try to do as Didion advises, "stay on nodding terms" with our past selves. PIVOT is one big nod to my 20's, including all the lessons I learned and the experiences that taught me them. Let us know if you listen.

Show notes:

- PIVOT zine is here - sign up for my paid Substack & we'll mail you a copy | LA launch party on 9/27!

- My book on journaling | WRITE kit

- Find Simi on the Web | Instagram | Podcast

- Simi's class, Unmeasured

- Find me on IG: @letitouttt + @katiedalebout | Substack

- 5 spots left in the Creative Clinic: book a call with me here

If you liked this episode, try out from the archive:

Episode 455: Saying What We're Afraid to with Founder R29 & A Tiny Apt. Christene Barberich